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Hi, so, this question is about whether or not it is possible to ranged someone who is "adjacent" physically, but not adjacent in game terms.
AIB
I is a line of elevation. A is on elevation 2. B is on elevation 1.
Can they ranged attack each other even though they are right next to each other? I now that their "adjacency" does not prevent ranged attacks due to the elevation.
ArkitoA1, people already answered to this question in this thread you made yesterday "Question Positioning and Line of Fire".
This question is specific to those two ranged attacking each other.
I still felt unsure.
As my question, in that thread, was asking if characters who already weren't "adjacent" could ranged each other.
Ex. AAIB
A on left and B attacking eachother.
This question (of this thread) is geared towards whether or not A on the right and B can ranged each other.
I'm asking here for clarification on this specific instance, as I have friends who would constantly say that you can't range someone right next to the ledge on elevation one.
The question is geared towards whether or not A on the right and B can ranged each other.
I'm asking here for clarification on this specific instance, as I have friends who would constantly say that you can't range someone right next to the ledge on elevation one.
A
-
B
They say you can't ranged from there.
The rim of an elevation is the only place to range or be range attacked from. Source Rulebook: THE RIM A square with a red boundary line running through it with a lower elevation next to it is called “the rim.” A character or square on the rim of elevated terrain can draw a line of
fire to, or have a line of fire drawn to it, from a different elevation.
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Sometimes people get funny ideas they have a hard time letting go of. I'll try to give you all the rule book references you need to convince them. Rule book pg 13:
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RANGE ATTACK REQUIREMENTS
When making a range attack, you must first determine if the character making the range attack is adjacent to an opposing character. If so, the attack can’t be made. The attacker must then draw a line of fire (that isn’t blocked) to the target and the target must be within the attacker’s range.
So we need to know if they (1) are adjacent and (2) are in line of fire (range is for sure unless they have a range of 0 in which case they can't make range attacks (see rule of zeroes on page 19)). First, adjacency from pages 5 and 6:
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ADJACENCY
Squares on the map that touch each other, including only through their corners on the diagonal, are considered “adjacent.” Most squares have four adjacent squares on their sides and four adjacent squares on their diagonals for a total of eight possible adjacent squares. See Figure 4.
Adjacent game pieces are those occupying adjacent squares. A game piece is never adjacent to the square it occupies or itself.
Terrain can affect adjacency. Squares are not adjacent if they are on the opposite sides of blocking terrain, including at an intersection or wall (See p. 21 for Blocking Terrain) or on different elevations (See p. 23 for Elevated Terrain).
So they are not adjacent, so that is not a barrier to making a range attack. The other thing we needed to check was if line of fire was blocked.
DrmngCelestial already quoted part of this, but I'll add more from page 24:
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THE RIM
A square with a red boundary line running through it with a lower elevation next to it is called “the rim.” A character or square on the rim of elevated terrain can draw a line of fire to, or have a line of fire drawn to it, from a different elevation.
A line of fire between different elevations is blocked by:
• Blocking terrain on the lower elevation.
• Elevated terrain of any level higher than the lower elevation, except the square the line of fire is being drawn to or from.
• A Giant or Colossal character. (See p. 30 for Size.)
As you can see, there is nothing there blocking line of fire. So they are in range, they can draw a line of fire, and they are not adjacent. If they persist in saying that you can't make a range attack, ask them to show you that in the rule book. If they manage that, please come back and we will explain why they are wrong.
This question is specific to those two ranged attacking each other.
I still felt unsure.
As my question, in that thread, was asking if characters who already weren't "adjacent" could ranged each other.
Ex. AAIB
A on left and B attacking eachother.
This question (of this thread) is geared towards whether or not A on the right and B can ranged each other.
I'm asking here for clarification on this specific instance, as I have friends who would constantly say that you can't range someone right next to the ledge on elevation one.
A
-
B
They say you can't ranged from there.
My bad, it seemed the same to me because i didn't notice the "left" word and i even checked twice before posting.....