using hypersonic speed, is considered make 2 moves, so I can pick up and drop an object in the same action?

Yes, but only if you're making two moves. If you're making one full-speed continuous move you could only do one.

Most people pick it up & "lay" it down on someone's head. LOL.

Hey, the question was answered so I can be funny, right?

But do note that you can't use objects for attacks during Hypersonic Speed with the current rules.

If you want to attack with it, you have to wait until you can use a CLOSE action (probably no sooner than the next turn).

Oh brother, I simply can't keep up with all the rules changes. Guess I really don't know how to play any more ... but that won't stop me.

Home player for life.

Same. And I’ll still use an object during hypersonic to whack someone on the head with it.

Maybe it would help if there was actually an in print rulebook, but there's not.
WW80, Empyre and Disney+ 'starters' are not starters, they are self contained games which are compatible with Heroclix.

I hear that 1000%.

Yeah, after so many revisions it becomes difficult to keep up. If you are truly a home player for life, I highly recommend coming up with your own house rules to play, this way you can keep the rules you like and discard the ones you don't.

The only drawback is you won't be able to play in any actual tourneys as you won't know the current game.

That's pretty much where I'm at. I adopt what I like and trash what I don't for the most part. I even fluctuate rules to a degree. If I'm playing all pieces pre-WW80, I use pushing damage. If those newer pieces are in there I ignore pushing damage & give older pieces a break. If rules are just more complicated than I like, like captain/sidekick & rally dice I just ignore those as well. This again helps those older pieces.

I play both sides myself so my rules can be as fluid as I like. Playing with others does require agreement and at tournaments the agreement is current rules like it or lump it.

This topic comes up every so often since the 2017 change to HSS, see below link to a thread from June 2021 and re-post:

https://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showt...ght=hypersonic

The HSS text from PAC matches the AFFE terminology.

Has prevailing opinion moved away from the below interpretation?

I don't think it moved away.
Unless you move full speed and then attack, you can make two moves using HSS (by making an attack without a target in between).

Actually you'd still make two moves, even if the second one was 0 squares. The moves from Hypersonic Speed1 are non-optional, so you must attempt to move twice during the action. When Hypersonic Speed1 checks how much you can move the first time, it finds {Your Speed Value}.

You move, then attempt to make an attack whether there is a legal target or not. Either way, you move on to the next move.

After the attack, you must attempt to move again. When Hypersonic Speed1 checks to see how much you can move now, it recalculates and finds {Your Speed Value - the number of squares just moved}. This could equal 0, it could be 200, it could technically be negative (though [13.1 The Rule of Replace Then Modify]6 does say if you'd go negative, go to 0 instead), but there is no rule that says "if you would move 0, you don't move". In fact there is a rule [10.5 Moving 0 Squares]2 that says "if you move 0 squares, you still moved".

So if you move your entire speed value during the first move, Hypersonic Speed1's second move just tells you to move up to 0 squares. You move 0 squares (rolling to break away if needed) and you're done. You moved the maximum number of squares allowed during that second move.

As for you, Bat-Phreak:

The June 2021 interpretation is still 100% correct. If there is a valid target, you must make an attack since there is no "may" clause in the power. It is non-optional just like the moves.

However, if there is no valid target, the attack becomes illegal since [12.1 Determine Targets]3 states that "Every attack must have at least one target." and [12.1c Legal and Illegal targets]4 states "If all targets of an attack become illegal and no further targets can be chosen, the attack immediately resolves." Since there are no legal targets, you skip all steps of the attack and it immediately resolves as stated in [12.7 Resolve Attack]5, and at this point and you proceed to the second move.

If there are any legal targets, the attack proceeds through the attack sequence instead. Attack or no attack, you then proceed to the second move.

I had fun with this post, can you tell?


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Gensan, I love watching a Wicked Good master at work, and IMO you are a HeroClix equivalent of one of the Dutch Masters!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Gensan again.