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04/14/2003, 14:48

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Outdoor Maps Questions. Please Help.

Could someone please help?

Can you TK someone onto the top of one of the air vent/conditioner things on the rooftops of the outdoors maps?

If you are on one of these things, do you count as being in hindering terrain as well?

As I understand it, the thick black line around the square or squares makes them elevated terrain and the picture on them makes it hindering terrain as well.

I am using Veteran Magneto in a game on Thursday and would like to know if I can TK my opponents Collossus onto one of these air vent things and leave him stuck there for the entire game. He can't be taxied as the taxi doesn't start adjacent and he doesn't have Leap/Climb.

Would I be correct in thinking the only way to get him down would be to use TK on him again or if he suffers knockback?

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04/14/2003, 14:54

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Only characters that can get to the squares (elevated blocking terrain) on their own can occupy those squares.

So basically: Flyers, Leap/climbers, and phasers are it.

No can do on TKing Peter up there.

04/14/2003, 14:57

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And they are just blocking terrain, not hindering.

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04/14/2003, 14:58

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Actually, it's worse than that....(here we go again)

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· Outdoor/Elevated Blocking Terrain
o O/EBT is defined as a square or set of squares surrounded by Blocking terrain wall (thick black line) with no apparent stair or ladder access.
o You cannot occupy, or even access, an O/EBT square unless you are a Hovering figure, or possess the Leap/Climb super power.
o While on a O/EBT square, the figure is only allowed to make Ranged Combat Actions. A figure with Leap/Climb cannot engage in close combat unless the opponent is on an adjacent O/EBT square (as they are considered to be at the same elevation).
o A Leap/Climb or Hovering figure that ends its move on top of Outdoor/Elevated Blocking terrain is not considered to be adjacent to any other figure that is not also on top of Outdoor/Elevated Blocking terrain and vice versa.
o If Leap/Climb super power is lost while occupying an O/EBT square, that figure is considered stuck and cannot move off the O/EBT square without help.
o O/EBT squares are not considered additionally elevated, so figure bases will block Line of Fire, as normal.
o An O/EBT square is not considered hindering terrain (although it might have a picture). The picture represents the blocking terrain (I.E. A/C unit, water tower, etc.). Figures with Stealth who occupy the O/EBT square can be seen and be fired upon. Object tokens cannot be placed on Outdoor/Elevated Blocking Terrain

not even a Phasing figure can make it into these squares.

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04/14/2003, 15:14

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Originally posted by Tsannik
(here we go again)

I'd recommend adding this to an HCRealms FAQ if I didn't already know it would probably do no good.

04/14/2003, 15:20

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It's in there already... although differently worded (in a way that I had a tough time figuring it out):

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Blocking Terrain
• The various air conditioners, vents, etc., are considered blocking terrain. These objects are defined as squares on rooftops surrounded by thick black lines.
•Only flying characters and characters with the Leap/Climb Power can enter these spaces.
• A Leap/Climb or hovering figure that ends its move on top of outdoor blocking terrain may attack another figure using a ranged combat attack as long as the only blocking terrain the line of fire crosses is part of the square the attacker occupies. A Leap/Climb or hovering figure that ends its move on top of outdoor blocking terrain can be attacked by another figure using a ranged combat attack as long as the only blocking terrain the line of fire crosses is part of the square the target occupies.
• A Leap/Climb or hovering character that ends its move on top of outdoor blocking terrain is not considered to be adjacent to any other figure that is not also on top of outdoor blocking terrain.

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04/14/2003, 15:38

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Originally posted by Tsannik
It's in there already... although differently worded (in a way that I had a tough time figuring it out):

Isn't that from the Whizkids FAQ? I was trying to say a separate HCRealms FAQ that answers the most frequent questions asked in this forum. Something you and the judges could word any way you want with rule clarifications. I know it wouldn't be anything official but I think this question has been asked 3 times today.

But I know that a FAQ like that probably wouldn't help too much and more time should just be spent on making the Whizkids FAQ more clear.

04/14/2003, 15:43

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Well, I hadn't thought of that....

Let's just hope the new rules arbitrator they pick has some insight into ALL the problems faced by players/Judges alike.

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04/14/2003, 15:53

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Can you put objects on these a/c squares?

04/14/2003, 15:56

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Originally posted by Starfire
Can you put objects on these a/c squares?

Nope.

04/14/2003, 20:13

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Ok, so let me understand this...

From the chimney/vent/whatever, you can only shoot at people actually ON the roof below you, because if they're on the ground, they're untargetable?

Hm.

04/14/2003, 20:18

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Can I taxi a figure up there if the taxi has charge?

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04/14/2003, 22:17

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Anyone have an answer?

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04/14/2003, 22:37

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how would charge allow you to no be adjacent to the figure you are taxiing? Since it doesn't the answer is no.

04/14/2003, 22:44

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If a figure can't get up there by itself, then he can't be taxied up there either. Only flyers and Leap/Climbers can end up on top of O/EBT.

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