Was Fortitude errata'd because I keep hearing that Superman Prime can't use it because he is Indomitable but the only thing the real feat card requires as a prerequisite is a normal (non duo) attack symbol

It didn't.

As you said, it can be assigned to any character with the attack symbol (which indeed excludes characters with the and attack symbols).
The defense symbol doesn't prevent Fortitude from being assigned.

u are correct in thinking that the prereq is which means that duos cannot be given fortitude

on a similar notion, cant be given shellhead. maybe thats where the confusion is

Actually, characters with the defense symbol can be assigned Shellhead (the isn't a prerecquisite), but they wouldn't benefit from Shellhead's modifier (because of the different defense symbol printed on the card).

ok ok,

slap shellhead on your characters, i dont mind

And there is a lovely two-way street with this.

Haymaker http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/images...tarburst.gifon Iron Fist and Power Man is awesome.

There are no prereqs, so it can be assigned to anyone.

When using the feat, three things happen:
1) : +2
2) -1
3) Pushing damage that ignores powers and TAs which prevent pushing damage.



1) They have the , so they get the +2 damage.
2) They have the (not the ), so they don't get the -1 attack.
3) They have Indomitable, which is not a power or TA, so it still prevents the pushing.

By the book, yes. In unrestricted games, though, I read old feats that deal "pushing damage that can't be avoided by powers or team abilities" as dealing unavoidable damage. And in restricted games, Haymaker doesn't come up.

Anything that isn't by the book is a house rule though, so don't expect this to work the same way everywhere.

I'd heard this was errata'd- ditto for all the old feats. Maybe he was wrong- gonna need to find the documentation...

Hot damn, I can't wait to use Haymaker again! For the longest time it was only used on LE Elektra Natchios, but now I've found a new use for it. Thank you Internet for this lovely combo. Be prepared to face the wrath of my venue buddies who will hate you for teaching this to me.

so can you Duo Attack AND use haymaker?

No. Haymaker requires a close combat action, duo attack only lets you do two close combat attacks.
Haymaker does work with Charge though (the duo attack doesn't) so it gives a little extra oomph when moving. And sometimes it is better to do one attack for big damage instead of two attacks for lesser damage... If you go up against an Invulnerable foe and don't have Exploit Weakness handy it is probably better to do one big hit.

The Duo attack also works well with the Back Alley Brawl BFC. BAB gives the bonus if you use no powers, feats, or team abilities. Since Duo is none of those, you can Duo and get the bonus on both attacks

drf, this is not a slam against you. Perhaps you can just help me figure out something. Every time I see "Was there errata for X?" or "I heard that X got errata." I think, "Well, why in the world doesn't this person go look in the errata to verify?"

So, drf, perhaps you can help me figure this out.