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Someone mentioned needing an errata for Cap to solve this ridiculous argument. NOT necessary. Again, I reiterate... Those that complain about an individual figure just shouldn't bother playing the game. If you love the game enough and are a decent player, there is always a way around one fig. Cap isn't even my favorite, but when I originally saw his SP, I personally thought it was one of the most comic-accurate in the game. Anywho, he's a bad mamma jamma and I like it that way!
I think the most common errata people are looking for is that he only ignores it for Attack purpose only.
This way putting ICWO on him he would not be able to outwit through buildings.
Another words make it worded like Trick Shot was made to be.
Other than that i do not see a reason for him to need errata.
But, but... some of us spent many wonderful Friday nights arguing about the physics of comic books. I mean, we had to. Its not like we ever had a date...
LoL Stop being rude to yourself edgreen86. Besides we all love arguing comic physics...in this case it's not productive to our discussion. Besides...you can have comic book physics talks with your date!!!
LoL Stop being rude to yourself edgreen86. Besides we all love arguing comic physics...in this case it's not productive to our discussion. Besides...you can have comic book physics talks with your date!!!
Actually, these days I play poker on Friday nights with some friends. I'd *like* to discuss comic book physics with them, but... well, lets just say they don't like to talk shop.
I am in awe of the cool and awesome people here on HCR!
I'm a pretty calm fella, but it really irks me off when someone has to take a character, dissect what is cool about him, and then label him as "broken".
For being someone pretty calm you are very irked (if that is the proper word)
I have some posible solutions for your irkness (again, if that is a proper word)
1- Play games that you can play alone.
2- stop playing games
3- stop coming to forums
4- relax and know that you will always find someone that should take 2 special pills (and Iīm talking about the ones that irk you)
You can try the solutions separated or mixed but the effect will be liberating for your soul and mind (trust me I did it)
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Many people have waited a long time for a Cap like this. Not just the sculpt, but for a moderate costed, running shot cap! he can't throw over or through indoor blocking or walls that are INDOORS!
agreed.
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At least that's how I and many others interpret it. Anything outdoors such as outdoor blocking or elevated buildings are fair game to fling his mighty shield and pop a "CAP" in someone's @*!...
And because you interpret it like that then its a cool fig and appropiate?
Look, Iīm not against it, just to be clear, cause it seems as if you missinterpreted my post.
I donīt say "itīs broken", I donīt claim that it should be errated (but I do agree that it should be for attacks, not for any LOF, but thatīs another thing)
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So, please stop complaining about this awesome figure. His dial is short and one hit could really take him down a peg, so instead of complaining about him, make a team or strategy that can counter his awesomeness. NUFF said!!!
I never complained, I just commented what I thought it would be cool about the power, or how I would have twisted a little the wording, nothing else.
I accepted a long time ago that this game has very little to do with comics, at least with the heroes and villains we love in comics.
Maybe the dials are about some heroes and villains we donīt know and then they put our chars over those dials.
But you talk about the awesomeness of a character that has a power that makes little sense with the character as it is strictly written (AND IīM NOT COMPLAINING, just mentioning facts, ok?)
Cap always throws his shield in weird ways, he makes it bounce off walls to hit enemies and then it comes back to him, the uses it like a boomerang, etc.
But he does not have x-ray vision...
So he canīt target something behind a building. And you know it.
And he canīt target something above a building when he is at street level.
And you know it.
Iīm OK with the fig, just another fig with a crazy power that someone didnīt think very well. (This is MY OPINION NOT A PROVED FACT, only fact I have is the power as it is)
Some are not OK with the fig as it is.
Unfortunately, some express their feelings or thoughts in ways that sound very hard in plain text, but Iīm pretty sure it would sound very different in person, with the rest of the body language.
Thatīs why we should relax a little here in the forums, sometimes we make a world for very small things.
And at the end, the guy has all the right to think different than you or me or the rest of the forum and he also has the right to express it without us coming like hawks over him.
Nowadays the only times I get pissed is when someone has no respect for opinions.
We all have the right to our own opinions, we have NO RIGHT to be disrespectfull against the opinions of others.
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If you need the 2012 Rules Book and PAC in Spanish PM me ^ What he said. Vladīs Stamp of approval
So he canīt target something behind a building. And you know it.
Those maps are 2D. You don't know what the buildings' sides look like. There could be big windows allowing him to see the guy and know exactly how to throw that shield around the building.
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And he canīt target something above a building when he is at street level.
And you know it.
Why not? He could have a good sense of where the guy is. Heck, the maps are 2D. Those could be 1 story buildings and it wouldn't be hard for Cap to draw a bead at all if that were the case.
This game has rules. They don't always translate directly to the real world. If you can get past that, then everything is a-ok.
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In the real world, I could pop hit you easily. In HC, it is impossible.
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Iīm OK with the fig, just another fig with a crazy power that someone didnīt think very well. (This is MY OPINION NOT A PROVED FACT, only fact I have is the power as it is)
Some are not OK with the fig as it is.
Those maps are 2D. You don't know what the buildings' sides look like. There could be big windows allowing him to see the guy and know exactly how to throw that shield around the building.
Iīm talking about comics now, not clix... so if you want to use clix logic in comics you are scrwd
(and btw... if that is the case then any fig could be able to shoot through a building, not just cap)
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Why not? He could have a good sense of where the guy is. Heck, the maps are 2D. Those could be 1 story buildings and it wouldn't be hard for Cap to draw a bead at all if that were the case.
Iīm talking about comics now, not clix... so if you want to use clix logic in comics you are scrwd
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This game has rules. They don't always translate directly to the real world. If you can get past that, then everything is a-ok.
they never translate to real world you know it better than me.
And you also know that Iīm ok with it.
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In the real world, I could pop hit you easily.
Yeah? You and who else?
wait... whatīs pop hitting? speak in english man!
at least english I understand
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In HC, it is impossible.
canīt answer this one until you explain me the poping part
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Yeah, but calling it broken is a total stretch.
You confound me... if it is stretched then its not broken, at least not yet...
or at least thatīs my english lets me understand...
If you need the 2012 Rules Book and PAC in Spanish PM me ^ What he said. Vladīs Stamp of approval
i disagree about your comments directed towards Kelly... i don't know where this information came from but i am pretty positive she came out before WK shut down to tell us how excited she was. and seth even came out to say how good she did.
She lives rather closely to me. She used to play MechWarrior at some of the venues I've played at.
this thread is not about Kelly's credentials or whether or not Cap should be errata'd.
As far as I can see all actual rules questions were answered long ago, so I'm closing it down.