If team abilities are ignored then how do the ATA's block lof?

I think that makes sense then. I don't necessarily agree that it should work that way (but then again, is that really the first time you've heard that statement when talking about heroclix rules?)... but going by the rules, that seems exactly right then. Thanks for clearing that up gentlemen.

Darn...I tried.

Thanks for answering my original question. Appreciate it.

Powers and abilities, like ATAs, are only ignored if line of fire is drawn to the character using the game effect. The new wording of Pulse Wave does not allow line of fire to be drawn to the character to begin with (the ATA blocks line of fire), so that characters game effects aren't subject to.being ignored. The reason Pulse Wave still gets around stealth, is because it now says it ignored hindering terrain, so you can draw line of fire prior to ignoring game effects.

Previously, Pulse Wave was worded that its line of fire was only blocked by walls, elevated, and blocking terrain, so unless the effect was one of those terrain types, line of fire could be drawn to all characters in range, the seemingly subtle change allows other effects to block line of fire, because the power itself no longer specifies only those terrain types block line of fire.

I hope I explained that well enough to answer your question.

Guys, the reason Pulse Wave acts the way it does in these examples is exactly why Out of the Shadows Batman works. Give him a close combat action and THEN he is placed next to an opposing character he can punch. If the action was dependent on the attack being legal, then OotS Batman wouldn't work.

I already said that, but nobody listent me!

The question is why this change?! It made perfect sense and more intuitive the way it was before. Perhaps it's to balance out the fact that PW can be done when adjacent?

At any rate, we will abide by this new change.

There were a couple reasons for this change. I can't give a ton of details without potentially violating my NDA but the nutshell version is that WK wants to make sure the Improved Movement and Targeting mechanics are utilized as much as possible going forward (not much point in having them if they aren't used) and the shift form "only X, Y, and Z block LOF" to "use IT [green]" caused some things to shift. Most of the time, PW works exactly like it did before (even better, in fact, since there is now no hindering terrain modifer to DV thanks to IT[green])... but there are a few more corner cases now where LOF can be blocked.

Thanks for the explanation. Streamlining is always a good thing. And, no more hindering terrain bonus... I think we were still playing it with the bonus... good to know.