FYI, there is a specific section that covers what things are replacements and what are modifiers, and halving is covered there.

Cool, thanks. I knew there was somewhere, I was just lazy to look for it, and busy at work.

Since 2010 for sure. That's why it amazes me when this 'issue' still arises.

I can't believe this is still a question with some players. It just bothers me when I am playing the game and someone still has to look this rule up.

It has been replace and modify since at least Hammer of Thor.

The section you are looking for is on page 5 in the Rulebook, under Replacement Values.

It really was not a question of "Replace then Modify" it was a question of the order in which things happen.

Cya

This came up at nationals at during my second game. The player across from me got an education. I was very nice about it and more than happy to let a judge explain it but yeah it still comes up.

That's the point, really. Timing never comes into play. -Always- replace then modify, and you -always- recalculate whenever an action is made. So if it's from the Belt, Perplex, Special Powers, ATAs...you always use the replacement (if any) then any modifiers. Timing is completely irrelevent (well, as long as it doesn't come after the action, but I think you get it)

Replace then modify is the order. All the time. 100% of the time. It is never anything other than replace first, then apply modifiers.

In actuality the change I had to make was probably better then my original plan so it helped me out.

I was just getting paranoid I'd been "forcing" my players to play it wrong and was frustrated I couldn't find a section in the rulebook about replacements and modifiers. Didn't think to look or see the Golden Rule Section.

I know what its like feeling like your going crazy as a judge. A player I trust with rules mentioned something about how peanut bases could not be placed diagonal and he kept having to correct his opponent...I said "really? thats a rule? I'm a horrible judge!" he sent me a link to the page, I read it twice and went back "Uhh dude that is for figures that take more than two squares" - Hooray I guess I'm not so terrible!

I have been doing this wrong for years!