Say CA040 captain America was granted TK from some powerful cosmic force, could he use tk to throw his shield around even when it's not attached to him?

And if he can, can he still target 2 characters for 3 damage each?

THE SHIELD (LIGHT OBJECT): The Shield can't be destroyed, only #CA040 Captain America can hold or pick up The Shield. When used in a ranged attack, Captain America may target two characters and deals 3 damage to each hit character. After any attack using The Shield involves, place it in a square adjacent to a target's square. This object does not count toward your force.

Yes, he can use TK to Place the Object.

No, he can't use it to target two characters when used in TK. TK has its own special rules when using an object in combat.

When Captain America throws his mighty shield, all those who chose to oppose his shield must yield.

Anyone with TK can place the shield though, correct? It says only Cap can pick up or hold, but doesn't mention that other's cannot place it.

Thanks,

Anyone can TK it.

GSX Magneto can TK it into two different targets!

(Sure, it's two uses of TK, but only one action.)

I guess the new Cosmic Boy can as well.

How did I never think of that? I need Magneto to throw around that Shield now!

why wouldn;t he be able to target two characters when he Tks the shield?

TELEKINESIS Give this character a power action and designate a target character or object (A) and a destination square (B). This character, A, and B must all be within 8 squares and line of fire of each other. Place A in B. If A is a character, it must be a single base character and possess the or symbol. If A is an opposing character, make a close or ranged combat attack that deals no damage against A, and only place the character in B if the target is hit. If A is an object and B is occupied by an opposing character, this character may make a ranged combat attack targeting the character occupying B, dealing object damage and destroying the object. A character that has been placed by Telekinesis this turn can’t use Telekinesis this turn.

THE SHIELD (LIGHT OBJECT): The Shield can't be destroyed, only #CA040 Captain America can hold or pick up The Shield. When used in a ranged attack, Captain America may target two characters and deals 3 damage to each hit character. After any attack using The Shield involves, place it in a square adjacent to a target's square. This object does not count toward your force.


it looks to me like Cap is making a ranged combat attack via TK and the special abilities granted by the Shield create special conditions allowing him to target two people, when otherwise he would not be allowed to.

Thanks! Now I have that theme song in my head!

Because you didn't highlight the entire thing:

TELEKINESIS Give this character a power action and designate a target character or object (A) and a destination square (B). This character, A, and B must all be within 8 squares and line of fire of each other. Place A in B. If A is a character, it must be a single base character and possess the or symbol. If A is an opposing character, make a close or ranged combat attack that deals no damage against A, and only place the character in B if the target is hit. If A is an object and B is occupied by an opposing character, this character may make a ranged combat attack targeting the character occupying B, dealing object damage and destroying the object. A character that has been placed by Telekinesis this turn can’t use Telekinesis this turn


If you can only attack the character in B (the place you put the object). You can't have two characters occupying the same square.

but what if you could...

Then you'd be breaking the Golden Rule of Occupancy. It can't be done.

Yes, TK has it's own rules, but, Cap has special rules. His rules state "When used in a ranged attack, Captain America may target two characters and deals 3 damage to each hit character."

TK allows a character to make a ranged combat attack. The Shield doesn't specify how that ranged attack is made. Just that when it's used in a ranged attack.

From the main rule book, we have this
I really see no reason why you can't use the Shields ability with TK.

Because TK lets you attack the character in B. See my post above (#10).

Okay, I'm really confused.
What are people talking about trying to do and not being able to do? I feel everyone is arguing something different than everyone else.
There seems to be something about TKing 1 object into 2 characters occupying 1 square, TKing 1 object twice (once each into 2 characters occupying 2 different squares), and something about TKing Cap? Or maybe the shield into Cap? Or having Cap and the TKer each attack the one or two targets?
I'm so confused on what we're even arguing about now.