Apologies if this question has been asked already, but can Parallax Hal Running Shot a wall and then remove the token he receives from that action? It says "when an action resolves during which..." so the timing seems like it could go either way. Before anyone asks "why would you?" it was to maneuver into a better position without keeping a token. I can't seem to do a proper search and find if this has been addressed, hence the new thread.

Good question. The short answer is that I think he should be able to remove his own action token. Although there is an established order for the steps by which an action is resolved, and the placement of action tokens is towards the end of it, you couldn't consider the action to be resolved if the action token hadn't yet been placed. As such, since the trait removes an action token, "when an action resolves," I'd say that the token must already be there and so is available to be removed.

EDIT:

Here's the relevant portion of the Rulebook:

To me, that makes it pretty clear that the action cannot be considered resolved until after the action token is placed.

If it said "after an action resolves..." it'd be a no-brainer. But you gotta determine if "when an action resolves" = "after" or if it is indeed during the action, thus before resolution.

That said, I've played it as legal as it pertains to the question.

I believe this is a case of the active player chooses the order.

When action resolves is when the token is placed so I think the active player could place the token then remove it. If you wanted the token on Parallax you would need to choose to have the Trait resolve first as this power is not optional.

The more I read the 2nd post rules quote, the more I believe it isn't a "choice."

It says, in effect, that any effects and free actions resolve THEN tokens are applied after effects resolve.

Parallax says WHEN actions resolve, not AFTER. Maybe it's email time.

Action tokens are placed as actions resolve.

Yes I know. The rules quote in post 2 goes more in depth to tell you exactly when during resolution you apply the token: after all effects of the action (free actions and other effects) have been resolved, you apply the token, then the action as a whole is resolved.

No as I stated already, it isn't optional but the order in which you do it is. So again if you resolve the trait first you can keep your token. If you resolve the token first you pull the token. Clarity is never a bad thing and my word is not to be taken as gospel. By all means please post their response.

Although it says free actions and other game effects resolve before the placing of action tokens, it also says that resolving the action itself includes both these steps and the taking of pushing damage subsequent to the placing of action tokens. To me, the fact that pushing damage happens after the placing of action tokens but is still considered part of the resolution of the action must mean that any game effect that takes place, "when [the] action resolves," takes place either after action tokens are placed (being effectively simultaneous with the final 'pushing damage' step) or simply at the point at which the entire resolving process is completed. I should point out that, to me, the phrase, "when the action resolves," effectively means, "when the resolution process reaches completion."

All that said, you're probably right that it's worth sending in an email, as the form of words is somewhat non-standard. In this case, "after action resolve," would certainly be the standard form of words for what I believe the intent to be.

EDIT: Reading jtaliday's post, he could also certainly be right that the effect simply takes place during the resolution process. So, yeah, seeking clarification is definitely the smart call.

I also missed mirandir's post and, having read it, am in firm consensus with both of them.

email sent. now to wait for response.