I am new to the clix universe, and I have managed to get my grubby paws on a complete Phoenix Force resource.

I have searched the forums for an answer to my question, but had no success.

I understand costing, turning, character requirements, etc. of the resource, but a few aspects about the additional powers afforded on the dial have escaped my grasp. We'll chalk this lack of understanding to noobitis.

Here are a few scenarios for further explanation....

--Let's say I have a fleet of Lyssa Draks pumped up by the Phoenix. Lyssa can use Perplex on her own but only to modify combat values down. If the resource dial shows Perplex as well, can I sub the resource's Perplex for Lyssa's in order to Perplex up my own stats?

--I assume you cannot stack damage reducing abilities between the resource and powers already available to your character (i.e. Invulnerability on the resource and Impervious on the character's dial). What about abilities like Super Senses? If my character has Super Senses on their own and the resource is showing Impervious...can I first roll for Super Senses to see of I evade the attack, roll for Impervious if Super Senses fails, and then reduce damage if Impervious fails?

--On the flip side of the coin, will stat increasing powers/abilities stack between the character and the resource?

Thanks for any help on this. I'm trying to figure out the best way to give Superman the Phoenix force in "for fun" matches at my local shop.

--Let's say I have a fleet of Lyssa Draks pumped up by the Phoenix. Lyssa can use Perplex on her own but only to modify combat values down. If the resource dial shows Perplex as well, can I sub the resource's Perplex for Lyssa's in order to Perplex up my own stats?

Sorry, but no. A character can only ever have a Power once. If a character already has a power on their dial, either through a power or a trait, then cannot gain that power from another source.

There are situations that can override this though. For instance if you have Perplex on your dial and on the Phoenix force and your opponent Outwits your Perplex, you could then use the Perplex from the Phoenix Force... I know it is confusing, but give it time. Eventually it becomes easier.

--I assume you cannot stack damage reducing abilities between the resource and powers already available to your character (i.e. Invulnerability on the resource and Impervious on the character's dial). What about abilities like Super Senses? If my character has Super Senses on their own and the resource is showing Impervious...can I first roll for Super Senses to see of I evade the attack, roll for Impervious if Super Senses fails, and then reduce damage if Impervious fails?

Super Senses plus a damage reducer is fine and you were correct you cannot stack damage reducers. In fact you cannot stack a power that reduces or ignores a power with any other power that reduces or ignores damage. Super Senses though takes an attack that was a hit, but instead makes it a miss as you evade the attack.

--On the flip side of the coin, will stat increasing powers/abilities stack between the character and the resource?
I'm not sure what your question is here. Are you asking if you can use Perplex and Close Combat Expert or are you asking if the Stat Modifiers on the Phoenix Force can be used with Perplex? Please clarify your question.

No.

No mixing powers that reduce/ignore damage. Using Super Senses and then a reducer/ignoring power is fine though.

I'm not sure what you mean here.

No. Because Lyssa can already use Perplex, she can't gain it from another source per this line in the Player's Guide:

Game effects which grant the use or possession of another game
effect have no effect if the recipient can already use the new effect.

You can't stack damage reducing/ignoring powers, but can use other powers freely. So it is perfectly OK to use Shape Change, Energy Shield/Deflection, Super Senses and Impervious against the same attack.

I am not quite sure what you are asking here. If a power on your dial and a power granted from a resource both give you modifiers to some combat value, those modifiers will stack and then be subject to the rule of three.

Sorry about the vagueness of the last question. I'll use Phoenix's final click (with 4 fragments on the base) as the example. The last click gives +3 to all stats. According to the rule of three, I wouldn't then be able to utilize the Cyclops fragment's Ranged Combat Expert, correct? Or technically, I could use it, but the increase would be locked at +3 from the resource dial.

you are correct. Rule of 3 entails ANY modifier, so ES/D, RCE, CCE, Combat Reflexes, Hindering Terrain bonus, Empower, Enhancement...

Awesome. Thanks for everone's help!!

You're right and wrong. The sum total of all modifiers is +/-3.

Let's say you're on that PF click with +3 to all stats. On her turn, your opponent modifies your attack by -3 with Perplex from three Con Artists. On your turn, you can activate RCE, and add the bonus to your attack.

+3+2-1-1-1=+2

Your attack would be +2 after all modifiers are applied.

Or let's go with something else. WoS Doc Ock has the PH attached and is on that Click. He uses her Perplex power to up his defense by +4. Your opponent, still with an army of Con Artists, Perplexes it down three times.

+3+1+1+1+1-1-1-1=+4

That gets capped at +3 but if you hadn't used Ock's perplex, your net bonus would be +0.

You can apply all the modifiers you want; they're only calculated when you need to do so.

PhoenixFiveAcolyte: Have you read the rulebook or have you just been taught? If you haven't read the rulebook and/or PAC, see my sig for links. The multiple reducers question is right in the rulebook.