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POOF!: The Wizard can use Shape Change. When he uses Shape Change and succeeds, you may place him within 4 squares and in the square he previously occupied immediately place a Tiger bystander.
If the Wizard successfully rolls for shape change and you place the tiger, does the tiger become a legal target for the attacking opponent or is the action over?
If the Wizard successfully rolls for shape change and you place the tiger, does the tiger become a legal target for the attacking opponent or is the action over?
The character is placed immediately upon the successful Shape Roll. Meaning the attack that triggered the roll is still looking for a target.
So, yes, barring odd corner cases (like blocked LOF because you put Wizard between the attacker and the Tiger), the Tiger could be a valid target.
I don't know how wild I would be, though, about putting a pretty awesome 50-point utility piece CLOSER to an attacker just to save a 0-point bystander. Even if that particular attacker can't target The Wizard right now, that doesn't mean the attacker doesn't have friends who would be happy to blast him once the action is over.
I don't know how wild I would be, though, about putting a pretty awesome 50-point utility piece CLOSER to an attacker just to save a 0-point bystander. Even if that particular attacker can't target The Wizard right now, that doesn't mean the attacker doesn't have friends who would be happy to blast him once the action is over.
So say a character had battle fury they ignore shape change, but the wizard doesnt so he rolls it just for S and G's now if he succeeds he moves away and places a tiger. who does the battle fury character target since he should ignore the shape change but now the wizard is no longer adjacent making him illegal target? Still the wizard or change target to tiger? Or does battle fury character ignore everything about the shape change even though there is an added benefit?
So say a character had battle fury they ignore shape change, but the wizard doesnt so he rolls it just for S and G's now if he succeeds he moves away and places a tiger. who does the battle fury character target since he should ignore the shape change but now the wizard is no longer adjacent making him illegal target? Still the wizard or change target to tiger? Or does battle fury character ignore everything about the shape change even though there is an added benefit?
You don't roll for Shape Change if the attacker has Battle Fury.
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So in just reading the PAC (I understand its been largely errated and is not the final authority) I would think that the interaction with battle Fury, and Shape Change is such that: Battle Fury attacker announces intent to make, an attack Shape Change defender rolls d6. Regardless of success or fail on the d6 the Battle Fury attacker can still target.
Perhaps there is a clear ruling or explanation that I am unaware of.
Battle Fury: This character ignores Shape Change, can't make ranged combat attacks, can't be carried, and can't be targeted by Incapacitate or Mind Control.
Shape Change: When this character is chosen as the target of an attack you may roll a d6. On a result of 5-6, the attacker can't target this character with an attack this turn and the attacker may choose another target character instead. The attacker then makes the attack unless there are no targets, in which case the action resolves without an attack.
Confirmed? I know the attacker ignores Shape Change, but does it avoid SC triggering, or just the result?
Like penetrating damage vs. Imp, I'd think the SC character would be able to roll regardless.
Yeah, I wasnt aware the ruling had changed. There was that hot minute where DOFP Mystique would still get to roll for shape change even if the attacker had Battle Fury. Huge realms discussion. Good times.
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Confirmed? I know the attacker ignores Shape Change, but does it avoid SC triggering, or just the result?
Like penetrating damage vs. Imp, I'd think the SC character would be able to roll regardless.
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So in just reading the PAC (I understand its been largely errated and is not the final authority) I would think that the interaction with battle Fury, and Shape Change is such that: Battle Fury attacker announces intent to make, an attack Shape Change defender rolls d6. Regardless of success or fail on the d6 the Battle Fury attacker can still target.
Perhaps there is a clear ruling or explanation that I am unaware of.
Battle Fury: This character ignores Shape Change, can't make ranged combat attacks, can't be carried, and can't be targeted by Incapacitate or Mind Control.
Shape Change: When this character is chosen as the target of an attack you may roll a d6. On a result of 5-6, the attacker can't target this character with an attack this turn and the attacker may choose another target character instead. The attacker then makes the attack unless there are no targets, in which case the action resolves without an attack.
It's no different than Pulse Wave. When you Pulse Wave someone, they don't roll for Shape Change, Super Senses, or Impervious. Those powers are being ignored. Battle Fury does the same thing as Pulse Wave, but it's just specific to Shape Change.
Regardless, here's the ruling made a few months back.
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Hmm thats interesting. Batte fury says it ingores shape change not that it cant be rolled. But good to know how it is ruled. Hopefully they updated the wording in new PAC
I see now, the IMP analogy doesn't hold, since IMP is nto being ignored.
I can see where one might argue that the result is ignored but that the die is rolled, but thus is the ambiguity of the English Language. Glad to know how it's been ruled.