It seems your sole criteria for "better" is "better graphics." There is more to a game than just its graphics. In my view, game-play is most important, though graphics and sound do contribute.

Let me put it this way: the PS2 was pretty much the best system of the last generation. It didn't have the most advance graphics: it had the most quality games in all genres. That's what gave it the edge. See also DS. v PSP.

Of course, no one can dictate to another what criteria to find most important in a video game system. If one is a graphics-phile, then that will be the determining factor in what system is best.

I played the Excite Truck demo a few days ago. The graphics looked to my eyes to be GameCube level. That did not detract from my enjoyment since using the Wiimote to steer was lots of fun.

I think youi have it backwards: game-play is analogous to gas mileage, handling, safety, ect., while graphics is how "pretty" the car is and what other unnecessary bells and whistles it has.

Obviously whatever they're doing is working as the system is nowhere to be found. Of course it's not on the same level as 360 or PS3 graphically, but since it's also 1/2-1/3 of the cost, you probably can't expect them to be. (If that was even their concern.)

I like all 3 systems (360, PS2, Wii) and see the potential of all of them. However PS3 and 360 seem interchangeable to me at this point, which is what is going to lead me to pulling the trigger on the 360 over the PS3 because their next gen is already established at this point.

Nintendo's goal for the Wii is to be the #2 system in households. Meaning that the majority of homes with more than one "next gen" systems will either have a Playstation and a Wii or an Xbox and a Wii. With their play style that they're offering, as well as their price point, they are going to meet that goal. I'm sure of it.

At this point, yes. I have both the PS2 and Xbox. I enjoy both systems, as Xbox has yet to produce a great wrestling based game. If its just great gameplay, those two systems meet that requirement for me, as the games I play are very similar between last gen and the new gen systems.

However, having played two of the three next gen systems, I'm not investing in gameplay, I'm investing in superior graphic capability. I'll at least give credit to Nintendo, that the Wii has a different gameplay than the Cube with the Wiimote. But different is not always better.

Gameplay between the Xbox and Xbox 360 for a game like Madden (which is a staple for me) is very close, if not the same. However, 360 graphics wise completely blows the original Xbox away. When I played the demo of Madden on the 360, (which in Chicago, if your Gamestop is ran by anyone with a brain is a two minute drill, Bears versus the Packers, baby!) and Brett Favre broke the huddle and came under center, I was totally amazed that it actually looked like Brett, versus a large guy with somewhat blondish hair and a #4 on his jersey. The graphics were night and day. Granted, passing/running/etc was almost the same, but it was a "wow" factor to play a great looking football game.

I'm willing to say now, (without playing PS3's Madden, which I'm not 100% its even a launch title) that the gameplay will once again be very similar to each other.

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I just realized that I completely missed the opportunity to call those folks throwing their Wiimotes "Wiitarded". Better late than never!

I think you're confusing games you dislike with games that are poorly made. And I've had several trailers running on full screen on my computer before which give me a great idea on how it'll look on my TV. More importantly though, I try to learn about how they'll play, that is, how I'll interact with the game rather then how I would look at it. Most commercials are filled with prerendered cutscenes or just suck. And yes, I do mean the PS3's commercials as well. Or even especially.

Well, then there's the obvious problem with this disagreement. The type of games you enjoy have hit somewhat of a peak in terms of gameplay. Aside from graphics a game like Madden will have little to no improvements and the majority of enhancements they do add aren't really necessary. It makes you wonder how they can justify releasing one every year for full price, but the obvious answer is that people keep buying them.

You know, I could have lived without hearing that. Really.

We'll never know for sure now though will we.

Some sports games take advantage of the "incoming class" or rookies to update them. Madden gets a new one every year solely based on that, plus the amount of roster changes that happen due to a free agent market.

However, games like Tiger Woods I don't get every year. I'd say once every 3 to 4.

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Conversely...


"Gameplay? Not important. Price? Americans are rich, aren't they? The main thing here is that the graphics are great. Wait, where are you going!? Please come back!"

Saw this on IGN today and thought it was funny.

According to an article by Asher Moses from the Sydney Morning Herald, Sony Australia's General Manager, Nic Foster, has some slightly poorly-worded opinions on the Nintendo Wii, as compared with the forthcoming (for Aussies) PlayStation 3.

Foster was quoted as saying, "Wii is a core gaming device. It's a more fun, intuitive sort of product to pick up, where the PS3 is a broader entertainment solution; so you can have your fun, enjoyable gaming ... but then you have a whole suite of other applications ... such as Blu-ray media playback, the ability to access your music, access your photos and the interoperability with the PlayStation Portable."

No, you're being literal. My point is that you can't build a product and only focus on one aspect of the product.

EDIT: Oh, and in before "PS3 only focuses on graphics, amirite?"

I'm not a fan of the PS3 at this point. It's too much, for TOO MUCH. BUT, they did attempt to build a better rounded console. They improved the graphical capabilites, the processing power (which affects what you can do gameplay-wise, Nintendoboys), they tried to improve the online capabilites, and theft of an idea or not, they added the motion control to the system (gag me).