Says the man with the post in bolded, red text

Hence my saying the phrase has become corrupted, a concept you just proved.

I think that Ben can handle the criticism, however you do not provide a critique. You only stated "its an awful dial" and then seemed to insult the post that he wrote that demonstrated the choices he made. Perhaps my sensitivity metre is too high, I am misreading it and the sarcasm I read wasn't really there. If so, then I apologize to Amora.

Actually, if you read my comments in your own thread hair10, you will find that I agree with some of the concerns. My like of the character doesn't blind me to the issues people are concerned about, which is what i think you are implying, however i note you don't come out and say it.

Content versus presentation. I think you can criticize something without being nasty, which I thought that first post was.

Same colour as my username!

Red isn't intended to come across as angry. It's just to get your attention. You should find that my actual words are generally pretty calm.

Kudos for the dial and sculpt design of WoS Nightcrawler. I hate having features on the dial that de-power or nerf figures so I was glad he doesn't have a feature that hurts him when he carries. I hope I pull a Nightcrawler in sealed this weekend.

It was rude in a really lame passive-aggressive way then, too.

Nice fallacy there. You don't even have to look beyond this thread to find examples of Nightcrawler fans who don't like the figure and non-fans who do. If this were a non-Marvel character, would you be pulling the fanboy defense?

Case closed, eh prosecutor?

I'd agree with the earlier poster who said that Ben has really nothing to gain by answering either way. The haters on both sides will keep on feeling the way they already do. Beyond that, your claim of wanting to hear his experienced opinion really rings false to me. What kind of discussion do you really think would follow from his response?

It just seems like a transparent attempt to bait Ben. Regardless of how he would answer (or decline to answer), it plays to the agenda.

Thanks for the write up Ben. I really like how you captured the character and really think (even if you didn't have anything to do with it) that the cost is about right. Without alot of back up he's just an annoying/tie up type piece.

Good job.

Yeah, but that still leaves out Xavier, who could've put Peter to sleep before Peter had time to even think about moving. Nightcrawler is as fast/agile as Peter if not more so, yet the writer decided to punk Kurt out in favor of Peter. Wolverine can take a hell of a lot more than Peter gave him and can move faster than they portrayed, yet the writer decided to punk him out in favor of Peter. To add insult to injury, Peter adds in some Superdickery-esque dialogue during the whole encounter. Also, your statement about the X-Men being treated differently back then is accurate and actually strengthens my point. The X-Men were slighted in terms of what they were actually capable of and Spidey was written as being overpowered in that instance. I'm sorry, but it's terrible along the lines of Rulk punching an elder of the universe to death.

Wolvie v. Spidey is pretty good though. I'd honestly like to see the two go at it more often than they do, as it's almost always a fun and competitive fight, but it looks like Marvel is leaning towards the "World's Finest" treatment with them.

In the words of the immortal Popeye... "I yam what I yam and that's all that I yam."

If it was as borken as BenCrawler, sure. I'm a big fan of something called 'game balance'. BenCrawler throws that out the window.

Sure, if you say so.

It's hard to argue that this figure isn't min-maxxed for game play, and it isn't really credible that "this is the dial that represents everything Nightcrawler can do"...since the dial is missing the several clicks of Leadership it should have.

Cracked me up
But the NC issue isn't Ben's fault, it's whoever let those numbers with those powers slide through at 86 pts fault.
I wonder what the point formula would be for a pog Silver Age Superman (because Silver Age Superman would never leave his first click anyway, let's save on the plastic) with move= equal to the fastest Flash (and the Flash should be the fastest fig), attack= equal to the highest defense, defense= 32 (highest attack= 16 + triple perplex + 12 roll= nope can't scratch Silver Age Superman), and damage= immediate KO.

I'd totally be down for some front-loaded Leadership on that dial! Especially if it means moving the Shape change closer to the end-dial.

NC shouldn't be able to catch Spider-man if he were asleep.

Agreed. I'm guessing the Transporter version was dumped pretty quickly because of higher point cost.

actually, when written well, Ol Petey kicks the living crap out of Wolvie...