This sounds like your strategy in the other thread you started about resources... You know, the one you closed because literally no one agreed with you.

There seems to be a big point being ignored here as far as themes go. The problem isn't that Young Justice or whatever theme can't compete with resources; it's that the Avengers, the X-men, the themes that should be able to compete with them can't either.

I've been known to play all kinds of "lower-tier" themes over the years - Generation X, Mojoverse (before WaTX even!), the European Initiative from Ultimates.... Did I expect to win? Nope. But did I have fun? Absolutely! Winning wasn't the point, and if I had how much sweeter would that have been?

Had I played them against resources, however, it would have been miserable. As you said, they're not being used to "shore up" weaker teams, they're being used to pump up already viable teams.... Which makes about 95% of the other pieces worthless.

I don't buy the argument that the fact they exist makes it ok to play them all the time - again, see the nuclear argument above. Save them for Cons or specific events designed to be competitive, but on a weekly basis? Leave them at home.

I know. It's kinda surreal. I still don't trust it though...

Hear hear!

I like resources and I like playing with them and against them, regardless of whether both sides have them. There's a lot of fun things that can be done with resources.

But I play them infrequently. Because thata best for everybody, not just my W/L record.

[Sarcasm] It's ok man, you don't have to play anything against Resources. I've been on the 'Realms for a long long time and I spend a LOT of time in the Strategy and Tactics forum and I have yet to see ONE team that is just resources. Usually people play teams that include mostly figures and then they also include things that make the team better, assets if you will, like Objects, and ATA's and those more expensive Assets, whatever they're called. [/Sarcasm]

As for the bolded. Some of us play in competitive tourneys weekly. If your tourneys aren't intended to be competitive then I suggest talking to the Judge about making restrictions in his formats. Lots of places have "No Tactics" or "No Colossals" etc... I even know of venues that have rules for non-competitive events like "Named Theme Team required, and a figure can't be targeted by Perplex/Outwit or Prob more than once per turn" etc... That tends to reign in abuses a lot. But don't bother telling me something is legal and then tell me I shouldn't be using it. It's not that they exist, it's that many formats make them LEGAL. So YOU play what you want to play and I won't judge you for it, and I'll play what I want to play and it would be nice if you didn't judge me for it. And if you can't do that you should get a T-Shirt that says "Stop enjoying the game differently than me!!!" so people have a Heads-up.

Its been said multiple times just ask your judge to have different conditions for the different tournaments .
variety is the spice of life so just have him or her have some no resource tournaments.
if that answer is insufficient then this is just your personal crusade against resources in which case I hope the infidels win.

"...or specific events designed to be competitive..."

Catmoe covered your situation. Your [/sarcasm] should be further down.

And the endless cycle continues.....No wonder why we will never have world peace.

First :
- This is a strategy game where the goal is TO HAVE FUN

Second :
- This is a strategy game where the material is based on comic-book and other licenses
- That means alot of players WILL want to be able to play their favorites CHARACTERS with a minimum efficiency
- That means ANYTHING that makes them unable to play their favorites characters and stand a chance is going to make SOME people angry about the game
- That also means that some CUSTOMERS are EXPECTING that casual play is balanced enough, as well as some others are expecting the tournament/event scene to be interesting
- Taking that into account would probably drive up sales thus be good for the game
(i haven't said that making everyone happy is easy, but it's wizkids job to do so anyway)

Third :
- NOT all players have decided to LIMIT the game to what you describe. I agree with you it's ONE WAY to play heroclix but certainly not the ONLY way.
- SCENARIOS with different VICTORY CONDITIONS can be made, and it is ENCOURAGED by Wizkids ITSELF
- Basically, in my opinion, you're describing the LESS ENTERNAINING way to play heroclix. But that's a matter of opinion. You enjoy playing it that way, it's okay, really. Don't mess with those that enjoy it the other way around.

I think this kind of attitude should be rewarded with a ban or at least some Infractions post as it qualifies as "Rude / Obnoxious Behavior"

There is no problem with wanting to play whatever piece of the game you own. But most pieces won't arise debate and angryness if they were properly costed and balanced. Resources are ill-costed from the beginning. That's why they are so often discussed here. What i would want is wizkids to bring back balance to the game, even if that means a big errata on resources costs in the next PG. They will never do it i guess. But it's a shame. It is still time to make EVERYONE happy. Even in a very balanced environement, there is still some place for team building and competitiveness but casual play runs better. Why not make everyone happy and sell even more product than now ?

Ah, but it's not that simple is it?

For one thing, all of kraken's posts are specifically judging people not playing meta. More importantly though, when you bring whatever "meta team + resource" constantly, you essentially are telling me what I have to play. If I show up with my X-Factor team it's no longer a game; it's 5-10 minutes of you demolishing me, and neither of us has any fun. When you bring resources/meta-teams all the time you're essentially telling me I have to do the same. So yeah, that simplified argument doesn't hold water.

Besides, I clearly stated that if your venue prefers that play style go for it. Me? I prefer things like creativity, fun, an environment that doesn't value winning over everything else. What's the point of WK even making 90% of the figs if people only play a handful of them?

is your casual play dictated by this? if so, talk to your play group about this.

you have no right to be angry that people are bringing meta to a competitive tournament scene. it's what other people want to play, not what you do. if you want to bring a theme team, then do your best to make it competitive. there's no real advice i can give you.

I find this to be a terrible argument. Characters should not get any sort of bonus to competitiveness for being more popular.
I think it does. One is making a choice unpalatable for you; the other is taking the choice away entirely. I prefer the former to the latter.
Dunno, ask WotC; they've been doing it for years.

Late to the party but I'll add my 2 cents which is probably just repeating somebody else's thought:

Resources make more figs viable at the top level. It's some of the other elements that need to be thought out. The craze of free actions that grant non-free actions needs to be brought under control, as well as board-hopping pieces.

Resources are stupid good, don't get me wrong, but they help us see more of a diverse field imo because they can power up tier 2 and 3 figs and allow them to hang with some of the big guns.

Figure balance is a more glaring issue imo right now.

I don't like this theory, because while you are correct in that tier 2/3 pieces are elevated with resources, tier 1 figures are also elevated with resources.

It's not like you can't add a resource to, for instance, Metron.

Metron with move and attack. Muahahahahaha Genius idea, I think I will borrow it for my next game.

/Back to the topic
I don't know how much more I can say that hasn't been said. I definitely prefer the game sans resources, as a theme team player. But the fact that resources can also be used on a theme team make them more enjoyable. Give Spidey the batbelt, and now it's his utility belt with all of his web cartridges/spideyflashlight/spider-mobile keys. Maybe Magik managed to obtain the ultimate power of the infinity gauntlet. The phoenix force clearly isn't that picky, maybe it though Superman would be a good host. (screw the BoS, btw. My least favorite resource.)

So yea, resources kind of suck from a gameplay perspective, BUT they can still be used on theme teams. I mean, it isn't always accurate, but I'm sure that most teams have at least ONE character that deserves a utility belt for gadgets,etc...

The BoS still sucks, I'm debating whether bringing my dice to a tournament is even worth the storage anymore when hitting is almost a given.

The bottom line here, again, forever and ever world without end, amen, is that some people will play the best they can every day, and some people will play for fun.

Exactly. And none of the people in either group--or the million varied benchmarks between those extremes--are wrong.