Dude.....Xenophobia works both ways

That's far too deep for this early in the day!

Despite not personally liking him I have argued the possibility that Hans didn't cheat in other threads, but this is just silly!

are you talking to me?
i have no problems with american players...really..
when horwath won pc amsterdam i just said "wow...congratulations to him", while pc l.a. made me think that americans just don't like european players to achieve significative victories within u.s.a..
this feeling is more consistent while i read in this forum people, like the one with bulk lao's avatar, complaining about a 10k's won by decks created by non-american people.
hans got banned for what might be a procedural error while horn and tataar did make as well mistakes during their match but they've got not even a warning.
all makes me think about xenophobia against non-american players.
this is kinda disturbing to me....:ermm:

Yeah, they really hate non-American players...like Vidi.

Reading through this whole thread made me remember a few handy tips I have picked up or been told.

1) Determine initiative before handing the deck over for cutting. This removes the possibility of someone 'accidentally' seeing your cards.

2) Always cut your opponents deck (and I prefer to shuffle it). A lot of people who know me well have just 'tapped' my deck, and I will then ask them to cut to remove any doubt. I cut everyones deck. If you where my best friend I would cut yor deck. Good play habits are good play habits. Its not paranoid, just consistent

3) If someone has shuffled your deck that you do not trust you can ask to stright cut your deck. I often like to do this. No one has ever said no to me, but if they did you could always ask a judge to cut it. Number 3 is a trickyone as where does it stop. Could I be cheating when I cut my deck? Tricky I know but...

Anyway, thats my 2 cents worth

this is the best you can say?
vidi is a member of one of the most respected teams.
and anyway....this don't happen always....but often..and often is still too much.

Often? You've only mentioned once, the well-documented case of one Mr. Hoh.

Like Andre Muller? Or Kristian Kockott? It didn't seem to bother anyone when these two European players made PC top 8s on American soil.

Maybe Americans take offense at cheaters top 8ing.

Sorry, but that's just an ignorant comment. Roy is American and UDE banned him for a long time.

You are allowed to cut your deck after your opponent presents it back after shuffling.
You may not shuffle the deck though.

http://lists.upperdeck.com/read/messages?id=9024

Cugino it was directed at you. You just seem a little too offended at times. I do think there's an element of Euro hate at times being from Europe and noticing it more than the average poster - see the thread on how Europe will affect VS. That dick posted about Europe sucking. Even if it did that's just so not cool it's retardedly annoying!
I do think that when it comes to the PC most people are level headed enough and chilled out. I know I've met enough decent people.

Let's say you're playing against someone with less than a stellar reputation, and you catch him bottom-looking while shuffling your deck. What do you do to take care of the problem?

During a major YGO tournament I've called judges to shuffle my deck instead of my opponents when I thought something was shady. Is that the only answer? It seems like something that judges are reluctant to issue penalties for, even warnings.

Again, having no connection to YuGiOh, I cannot speak for that beyond "it's illegal, so call a judge."

The UDE Standard Tournament policy (for all UDE games) is that the opponent must shuffle your deck so that they cannot look at the bottom card.

If the opponent has a reputation for that, you should always be watching their hands or eyes anyway. If and when they look, I normally point it out and request to restart the shuffle (I shuffle again, and they can reshuffle). If this is not an option, a judge should come over, and as you say the judge can shuffle your deck.

It is a circumstance that warrents an official warning, so that it can be tracked throughout the tournaments. Judges should not be hesitent about giving out warnings.

This is the problem that sticks out to me when I read about how you have so much control over keeping your opponent from cheating. If you notice this, you can restart the shuffle, but they can do it again; the only real option you have is to call a judge to shuffle for you, and usually you're going to have to call the head judge to get a penalty issued. It's a BS situation that requires a lot of effort and won't result in a penalty to your opponent unless you're not the first to complain about it.

I love the fact that this debate has boiled down to "Roy deserves to be banned, and people should be on guard against other cheaters" versus "Roy still deserves to be banned, but most of what he's accused of is difficult to accomplish."