No. They won’t win with you. They still have to kill you either way. The Clones can not win with the Jedi. That’s the entire climax of how the Jedi fell in both the prequels and the tv series: Order 66.

Yesterday I used the double vote I had stockpiled since my original trade with Hondo (did you really think I got my own power back as my one-shot? It just wasn’t time to reveal I could affect Neutrals and Separatists so long as the Separatists were out there and I wanted Grievious gone).

Heck, hellsmurf, you’re a mod and working to learn more so here’s something Girathon did that you can use yourself:
The Nite that activated swapped the Clones to be anti-Jedi he put in multiple mood music devices, including the theme if when Order 66 happens in the films. He did that because it was a special occurrence that was not just “an SK making a kill” (and, again, no other SK kills all game and the whole game I’ve given information derived from my power and not from a kill-based one). It was reserved for a moment the mod really wants to be memorable.

Also, just go research Order 66. You’ll see it was not a one-nite thing for the Clones. It literally changed the entire Clone / Jedi dynamic permanently. Now we have a Jedi trying to convince you to commit treason and all you’ll have to show for it is that tomorrow you still have to vote him away.

Ah, the hypocrisy of the Jedi. Let me guess “Only Sith deal in absolutes”?

Except, here’s the thing: this isn’t Light Side versus Dark Side. It’s Jedi Council versus the Republic.

It could be argued it’s about a bunch of people in a special group whom believe they can do whatever they want because they were born with powers and went to exclusive schools, even to the point they decide to send the Clones off to die as fodder so as not to risk their own limited numbers. Meanwhile, the Clones are on the side of those wanting to end the warfare and let the Clones retire to be instructors or pursue other interests, even as the galaxy recovers, rebuilds an economy, provides care and treatment for all citizens, gives everyone a chance to attend schools that focus on their area of expertise / interests and not a quirk of “perfect biology”.

The Light / Dark matters so little it’s not even part of my role. It’s you trying to tug at the nostalgia memories of those who’ve watched the films. It’s such a non-part of my role that the very first Mafia member I helped -The Town Factions (plural)- catch was Dooku. Don’t you think if it was a Dark Side situation him and I would have been allied in some manner? Instead it was me and Anakin.

I have no idea what's even going on anymore.

Vote: Darq

Y'all do remember that Order 66 succeeding is actually canon, right?

Rokk is arguing that your Win Condition has changed. Were you informed as such? If not, then your Win Condition is the same as at the beginning of the game, and Rokk is lying to you, as he has done multiple times. Don’t let him spin he didn’t claim Padmé. He did, explicitly.

Rokk is a Neutral with a different win condition than the rest of us. That is the ONLY reason the game continues. I don’t have a Kill power. He does. In fact, he has Two kill powers. Whoever had the Chip removed - Hellsmurf or ViciousB - can not be a killer.

I did claim Padme and you’ll see why when the roles are shown. All I’ll say for now. However, I’ve already explained the “Well, yeah.” part because in what world would it have been sensible for me to come right out and say “I’m Shreev Palpatine”? Everyone would have jumped to their pre-conceived notions that you’re trying to spin here, ignoring that the message of the prequels were “The Jedi Council was messed up”.

This part is not true. I do not have a win condition separate than the majourity of remaining players. It continues because of Darq and -maybe- - in all honesty I’m not sure - the de-chipped Clone though I doubt that.

Tell me, what happens if you vote me out today and the game goes on; are you next going to try and remove Michigan because “He’s Neutral so it must be why the game is going?” That still won’t win the game because thanks to Order 66, the Clones won’t win with the Jedi. Just like has been canon for fifteen years now.

I’ve ensured I can take no Nite action if people wish it. I would say “So perhaps a fair compromise is we go for No Elimination” to prove this and give DF a chance except the first few days when I kept saying “Folks, I think the mod is RNG’ing people for No Eliminations, DF kept insisting it was a Day SK and that No Elimination wouldn’t make a difference. I’m sure those who died to it are quite happy that people went with DF’s theory that Gira was out to copy him with a now-debunked Day SK.

Stick by me and you can get a Win. Go with DF and he’ll eliminate a large number of those who could win by doing daily witch hunts.

We know you’re a part of Order 66 because of Kontrol / Vlad. At this point, go with the one who has no reason to have you eliminated because you know after me and Mich go, it’ll be you they next blame for the game continuing as “DBoy is a chipped Clone who killed two Jedi”. You can bet on it. (It doesn’t take being Palpatine to see the future on the wall in that scenario).

I mean... the other option would have been not to claim Day 2


Yes, you do. You’ve admitted to being Neutral, it’s how you busted Mafia. You laid out who the Three Neutrals would wed to be

If that happens, I’m Yeet’d tomorrow. I don’t have an Extra Life. You possibly do, in “Padmé”. The game ends with Palpatine eliminated. Heck, I’ll even give up my Vote to Michigan tonight as a show of good faith.

I don’t think you’ve ever said there was a Night you took no action. You obviously were talking to a Clone last night, likely to point them my way. I Blocked that. It’s really up to DBoy and VB to say who they targeted. If DBoy Doctored me, that proves Order 66 isn’t in effect anymore. Same goes for VB.

Just for posterity

remove vote

I’ll recast my vote later I reading two competing arguments Of who I should vote for

You mean when I was being asked by Vlad who thought I had tried hinting I was Anakin because it’s easier for me to recall the spelling of “Snips”? Yeah. I could have done that. It would have gone over well, I’m sure.

Heh. Funny. I was going to make Michigan the same offer. Just I happened to be driving.
I don’t have an extra life in Padme. I did have protection from Mafia NK, ergo the Kidnap rule.

I said I would give up tonite’s action. I freely admitted I was concerned there might be an NK floating around and tried to get DBoy to Doctor me last Nite and that’s what you blocked.

And yes. I was trying to let people know early that Palpatine wasn’t Town but Neutral. Not due to win condition - I share the same Win Con as the Clones - but because the Town were active battlefield participants. That doesn’t mean the Jedi and the Clones win together, especially now that Order 66 has happened and made the Jedi their enemies.

Nah man, I didn't want to target you or Rokk last night! I targeted hellsmurf. The doubler seems pretty important to keep no matter what.

Hmm...whose vote to barter for ....whom...Tough choices

Personally it comes down to the fact there may be one last day phase after this one

Personally I rather kill the emperor he’s more dangerous than the rogue character

However I’m not specifying my vote still

The one that isn’t going to accuse the Neutral if the game stays open as it will if a Jedi is surviving?

Also, remember: Hondo the Great Philanthropist isn’t the same legacy as The Legend of Master Pirate Hondo.