I'm fine with people playing non-thematic teams. I'm fine with Bullseye possessed by whatever killing dudes with his weird DC virus buddy and a bird chick while wearing Batman's Utility Belt. I'm even fine with the rising power level of stuff in this game. What I'm not fine with is having the most powerful things be the rarest things. Not only are entities all Chases, they're Chases in a set that isn't supposed to be on shelves, making them even harder to find and driving up their price tags. May as well call them Jaces.

More like goyfs.

Dude, I love you, jtall! I don't care what others say

Likewise sir.

It's another game that shares some common rules, but also has some important differences. Kickball is to baseball as Horrorclix is to HeroClix.Agreed, they are different games.I'm still wtih you, although I don't really understand where the "why would 'Clix' be a subset of HeroClix?" question is coming from.
And this is where you lose me. HeroClix is the game system, not a style of play. I can play Horrorclix the exact same way you describe HeroClix, but because I'm using a different game system, I'm playing Horrorclix, not HeroClix.

In the same way, whether I build my Horrorclix team based around the sculpts of the characters or based around their powers and combat values, I'm still playing Horrorclix as long as that's the game system we're using.

Statclix and Characterclix are ways to play the game, but as long as you're still using the same game system, it's still the same game. And neither one is right nor wrong, anymore than it is right or wrong to put ketchup on a hot dog.As for thematic play, there have clearly been attempts to encourage that, with team abilities and keywords being the obvious ones, although there are a few others. But you are correct that it's never really been a focus of the game, just a sidenote.

Personally, I like how keywords and some powers/abilities work that encourage you to play certain characters together, but don't force you to do so.

Things like this:
GREEN KRYPTONITE ENHANCEMENT: When a friendly character named Lex Luthor is within 4 squares and line of fire, modify Bizarro's attack and defense values by +1.

That is a better comparison, due to Goyf's and Entities' shared ability to splash.

What about 3 of top 4 have a utility belt?

Cause it is clearly the best 14 points you can spend. Other teams may benefit more from Fragments or Hammers but on it's own it is just a great addition to any piece that can wear it pretty much.

Wizkids knew exactly what they were doing releasing Entities in a limited Edition set right before Con season. Anyone who thinks they didn't is crazy. However, this debate is what has kept the game going so long in my humble opinion. There has always(since Infinity Challenge) been a difference between as I call them, "Theme guys" who only play comic accurate or damn close to it teams and then the, "Meta" players who will use whatever figures, DC, Marvel, Indy, to have the best chance at winning. This is what keeps our community going to a certain extent. While I will freely admit to never entering a ROC tournament, I still have the right as one of those Theme guys to complain about the Meta game. Meta players should be more pissed at what Wizkids/Entities has done to their wallet then their game, while theme guys like myself just see pieces they don't want to see on the table across from them.

Tis cheaper to be you or me for sure.

So, let's sit down and play this game with generic little puck/POG lookin' things. When you CLICK them, their statistics change. I have one with 10 Movement, and it's colored orange. That's Movement Ability Number 3. It also has a 12 attack and it's colored orange. That's Attack Ability Number 5. Its Defense value is 18, and it has a Special Ability that you can read about on the card. It does 3 Damage with no special abilities. On the back of the puck/POG there's the number 23. Some people call that a "Synergy Ability", but that's a misnomer since the game piece can use many of those abilities even without other pieces in play.

Yep, the word "CLICK" was in there, so I can see how someone might be inclined to call that game Clix. I see absolutely nothing to indicate that the word "Hero" should be included in the name of the game.

I see a lot of Statistics, however, so I'm totally fine with the name StatistiClix.



Yes, there have been some changes to the game that might make one think that the company making the game cared about the source material, but those changes were quickly exploited by StatistiClix players and made null and void and I cannot for the life of me think of the last time I remember the company doing something that made me think they cared about the source material at all. Supreme Taco League? F-Itself and other events like it? ROC events? This new PWNZR league? Was there anything in between any of these validating the playstyle of people who aren't playing StatistiClix?

The one huge advantage to running a theme team, is map choice (board control), which dictates pacing.

It is possible to run a competitive theme. With the "beginning of the game" order being essential to neutralizing or preserving your strategy, you'll want to ensure that you win the initiative roll.

WOL=F-itself harder? I'm teaching a friend who isn't really a comic guy and that's all he sees the game as, is the numbers.

Couldn't have said it better if I tried. Rep

Been looking at this closely since it is hard for Lydea to make theme competitively.

So far I think I have viable Mystical, Thunderbolts, Weapon X and maybe even an Avengers themes.

In years of playing this game, I've blamed a lot of losses on a lot of things. I've also attributed a lot of wins to a lot of things. Winning an initiative roll has never been one of those things, in my opinion.