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My initial opinions are he's really good (all Entities are) but I think he's at the lower end of the scale purely as a Possession option.
He seems most comparable to Ophidian, IMO. Offering EE to open is huge, but I don't think it's better than Ophidian's PW. Ophidian gives the crazy Outwit, and more M&A options down the dial.
You need a split dial guy to access the crazy "everybody Mind Control!" power, and even then, math has never been on the side of Mind Control unless there's some kind of kicker to it, like Bro Voodoo doing it as a freebie.
I definitely agree with this. Thank you SO much, Imperialgamer, for taking the time to share this data with us. I definitely don't want to come off as unappreciative. However, I think maybe pics of the detached dials and character cards might be the best way for you to relay this info. I am heading to bed right now, but mike_h said you can send to him. Also, Solarlunatic and Steelmage2000 are also great people to send the data to. They both have been helping me out in this Evidence Thread a LOT. Thanks again for this data!
My initial opinions are he's really good (all Entities are) but I think he's at the lower end of the scale purely as a Possession option.
He seems most comparable to Ophidian, IMO. Offering EE to open is huge, but I don't think it's better than Ophidian's PW. Ophidian gives the crazy Outwit, and more M&A options down the dial.
You need a split dial guy to access the crazy "everybody Mind Control!" power, and even then, math has never been on the side of Mind Control unless there's some kind of kicker to it, like Bro Voodoo doing it as a freebie.
I disagree in general. Marvel 10th Emma Frost, Black Queen and Fear Itself Dracula look amazing with it.
But in general you are 100% right about Mind Control. Too situational without a kicker
Here's a cleaned up Predator Dial for the dial list.
#068 Unique Predator
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 10
Points: 175/25
Keywords: Star Sapphires, Entity, Cosmic
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Entity Possession: When Predator would be KO'd or, if you pay 25 points when building your force, place Predator on another friendly character's card if that character is 25 points or more, has the "fist" or "sharpshooter" symbol, the "shield" or "indomitable" symbol, and the "tiny" or "burst" symbol. That character has Predator's keywords and can use the Possessed ability with this character as the Possessor. When that character is KO'd, Predator is removed from the game. Possessed: Click the Possessor's dial to the same click number as this character and change it during the game in the same way that this character's dial changes. At the beginning of each of your turns or after this character takes or is healed of damage and actions resolve, you may choose 1 power showing on one Possessor's dial and 1 combat value on one Possessor's dial higher than this character's printed combat value. This character can use that power and modifies that combat value by +1 until your next turn or until it is healed or takes damage. If the Possessor is turned to a KO click, it is removed from the game immediately. Cosmic Love: Predator can use Shape Change, the Quintessence and Mystics team ability. Power of Love: All characters within range can use Mind Control.
Last edited by Vitol; 07/29/2014 at 22:37..
Reason: Missed the correction on the wording above.
I disagree in general. Marvel 10th Emma Frost, Black Queen and Fear Itself Dracula look amazing with it.
But in general you are 100% right about Mind Control. Too situational without a kicker
Yeah, I'm just mostly on about how MC requires 2 successful interactions to do what a normal attack only needs 1 to do. Math doesn't favor it.
I love MC as a weapon, when the right situation comes up it is a game winner, but I can see the opponent getting just as much (or more) benefit from Predator's MC orgy power. Supposing they're playing a swarmy-build with good AVs? Suddenly their 50 point guys are bossing around your hitters to beat on each other.
EDIT: nevermind, looks like it is only friendlies. That's a different tune.
I'm liking the look of Predator, mind you it will probably the most underestimated of the entities. Predator will shine on possessed characters mid-dial.
I disagree in general. Marvel 10th Emma Frost, Black Queen and Fear Itself Dracula look amazing with it.
But in general you are 100% right about Mind Control. Too situational without a kicker
Emma is quite capable without the MC to keep from being a one-note figure and can use it to reach diamond-form if desired, Black Queen can use it to heal, FI Drac doesn't have it but ASM Drac's gets two targets out of his restriction. I'd argue that a kicker makes it useful in more situations, but 'vanilla' MC is best as an additional option for characters rather than 'the one thing that they do'. As such, I enjoy seeing it as an option for figures when appropriate, and seeing someone give it to your whole team seems like a very neat trick that doesn't take away from other options except Shape Change.
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