Because Versago would still need Ploymerization.

All I gotta do is get PDS and TD-H-SF on the field and tribute them both for Balter.

Or him and Summoned Skull for Black Skull Dragon.



Waldo10032 – The Fiendish Duelist says
"What does not belong? A drum, an egg, or a Fiend Deck?
Well, you can beat a drum. You can beat an egg, but you can't beat a Fiend Deck."


EDIT: Whoo-Hoo! 115 pages!!!

hmm. Not a bad ban list. This just gives me more leeway(sp?) to make even crazier decks. The restriction on night assilant hurts a little, as does level limit, but at least i got the cuddly kuriboh look alike back. (sangan)

Ps: Lets go to 120 pages.......and beyond!! :)

Interesting indeed, and just as I was ready to run Fiber in my Archfiend deck. Oh well, since it is Vegas style, then I'll have to run Dice Jar instead 8^D

EDIT: I just dawned on me with two things

1) With Graceful in the mix, that could open up some nice Gilfer abuse....

2) Granted Night Assailant is down to two, but with Sangan, you could get to your Assailants a lot faster to get the ball rolling...

Yeah, the Fiber ban hurt me a lot too.

I’ve been DEVASTATING Chaos decks left and right over here.

Bottomless Trap Hole!
Bottomless Trap Hole!
Bottomless Trap Hole!
Cursed Seal of the Forbidden Spell!
Cursed Seal of the Forbidden Spell!
Soul Demolition!
Soul Release!

Then Fiber Jar!

Oh well! I’m still reeling over Night Assailant’s semi-restriction. I remember us discussing the Restriction and Semi-Restriction and it was dismissed altogether. Well, it seems we have abused it TOO much and we’ve paid for it.

Oh well. I guess it’s about time we started running “Soul Reversal” to get those Flip effect monsters back to the hand.

I’m celebrating D.D. Warrior Lady becoming useless in a Chaos deck.

Now is out time guys. Rush the field, take them out QUICKLY!!! Make sure you put those negators out there quickly – Wicked Breaking, Terrorking, Dark Ruler and Balter – to negate those Magical Merchants they’ll start running.



Waldo10032 – The Fiendish Duelist says
"What does not belong? A drum, an egg, or a Fiend Deck?
Well, you can beat a drum. You can beat an egg, but you can't beat a Fiend Deck."

Not really bothered about the Night Assailant abuse now since I've just stopped running them :) don't really need them in the fiend beatdown. Overjoyed that BLS is still here though, whenever it comes outI always seem to take it whether it be through Snatch Steal, Falling Down, Dark Necrofear , creature Swap and with DDWL now limited i'm happpppy

I sure hope Chaos sees a little less play after this list. BLS will hopefully only go in some decks, rather than every one. There will be more ways to stop him, like Mirror Force, while the old ways will still be around. Fiends will take a hit with one less Night Assailant, but two of them plus a Serpent would still allow for a nice amount of discard abuse.

There have been some mentioning of what light monsters will fill out the space left open by DDWL in Chaos decks, but I wonder what the prominent one will be? There is MOF of course, Magical Merchant, Shining Angel, Ninja Grandmaster Sasuke...All are nice monsters, but they don't have anywhere near the versatillity that DDWL had.

Man, one thing I'm angry about, is that I never picked up a D.D. Assailant, and his value just keeps going up. Bah, I got lucky in getting my DDWL before the value skyrocketed, but was late with this guy.

One other disappointment is the banning of Fiber Jar, I thought it would escape this ban so I picked up one, but it is dead weight since I don't play traditional. Foiled again! Haha.

Crazier!!??? Only thing Ive seen you using recently that will be affected, 12th, is Mirage.

120 pages? I didnt realize we were at 115. This isnt a thread, its a Forum all its own!

Honestly, Im more bummed over Painful Choice than Fiber Jar. But neither compares with the joy of pulling out all my dusty Graceful Charity cards again. They are going in everything. I MISSED that card.

Sangan replaces a Tomato in my Fiend deck; UWS in my Harpy Deck; DDuo in my Horus deck, and ... what else am I running? *runs to check decks*

Squid - !!!!! Scroll up...please...

Um, just to contribute... the semirestrict on NA doesn't bother me too much, I found it more reliable to do 2x NA + 1x Serpent recently anyhow. (^.-)

My Delinquent Duo is lost somewhere in the Ultra Rares binders. Maybe it’s in the Control Binder.

Well, Graceful and Sangan are enough for me. Unfortunately, I have to make some adjustments to my decks again. I’ll have to Re-sidedeck Lesser Fiend, since Fiber will be gone, and deck Airknight or Mefist again and use Wicked Breaking.

There are no LIGHT monsters more annoying than D.D. Warrior Lady. Or at least none that we can’t handle. I’ll have to pop the third Metamorphosis back in too.



Waldo10032 – The Fiendish Duelist says
"What does not belong? A drum, an egg, or a Fiend Deck?
Well, you can beat a drum. You can beat an egg, but you can't beat a Fiend Deck."

I actually struggle to think of any other really good 4* or lower light monster, played earlier using this ban-list the game seems a lot more fluent and Graceful is a very capable back up for Painful IMO.

oh and can you please take a loook at the fiend beatdown (in my sig) thanks :)

Ahhh…I hate losing Scientist myself too, but I’m kind of relieved that copout is gone too.

Time to run those drawing cards like crazy!



Waldo10032 – The Fiendish Duelist says
"What does not belong? A drum, an egg, or a Fiend Deck?
Well, you can beat a drum. You can beat an egg, but you can't beat a Fiend Deck."

Time to party again! I ordered pizza, Mountain Dew, and many, MANY snacks! What’s the occasion? Sangan, Delinquent Duo and Graceful Charity’s return from Neverland (a.k.a. dusty pile of cards)! The restriction of D. D. Warrior Lady! The banning of Change of Heart (no more loss of face-down monsters ^_^)! The semi-restriction of Level Limit-Area B and Gravity Bind (loss of power from defensive decks)! I’m talking about the new ban list! Although we lose one Night Assailant, Fiber Jar, Painful Choice and Magical Scientist, we get back so many things! Delinquent Duo and Graceful Charity are going to my deck, as well as United We Stand. It will be disappointing to take out my Painful Choice and Change of Heart, but Graceful Charity replaces Painful Choice and Enemy Controller replaces Change of Heart. Fiber Jar and Scientist also has to leave my deck, but I’ll be sure that they will be respected as they go with the other imprisoned cards. So, despite the bad news, lets par-tay due to the good news! YEAH!!! ^_^ Enjoy ^_^ ^_^
-NinjaDuelist-

uhh.....yeah, I...... um...well, see..
:rolleyes:


Ok. :speechles

My bad. :nervous:

no more speed reading. I promise :sleep:

to w.a.l.d.o.1.0.0.3.2.: Me missy eMe eSe, toosy. Feelin little bluesy.
I was just starting to really get into some serious speed mill decks, so some of these are going to slow me down. *sigh*

We never got to feel the pinch of a real Makyura OTK *sigh*
Painful was a fabulous tool for full on Tribute decks *doublesigh*
Why am I complaining? *triplesigh*
*scratches head*
oh, yeah!
I dont think I know where my DDuo is either.
D'oH!*quadruplesigh*

Hey, let’s pick up the mood a bit.

Here’s some GREAT news for all Fiendish Duelists everywhere.

Remember Black Tyranno? Remember Drillago?

Everyone went nuts for these guys until UDE/Konami put the Smackdown on their effects.

“If your opponent controls at least 1 Spell or Trap card, Black Tyranno and Drillago cannot attack directly”

Oh, how disappointing that was for everyone.

Now, let’s talk Fiends:

Let’s look at Shadowslayer and his text:

Shadowslayer
DARK/Fiend/4/1400/200
If the only cards on your opponent’s Monster Card Zones are Defense Position monsters, this card can attack your opponent’s Life Points directly.

Muah ha ha ha!!!!

Let them have One or FIVE S/T cards on the field, Shadowslayer will STILL be able to attack directly!!!

So if you put him and a strong monster on the field next to him, your opponent’s only choice is to either take 1400 direct by placing a monster in defense mode, or taking damage from the big monster and THEN Shadowslayer!

“Ohh, Spirit Reaper in defense mode!?!? Meet the Shadowslayer!”

Put “Demotion” on him and he can attack under G-Bind, Level Limit AND Messenger of Peace!

Being evil never felt this good!!!!



Waldo10032 – The Fiendish Duelist says
"What does not belong? A drum, an egg, or a Fiend Deck?
Well, you can beat a drum. You can beat an egg, but you can't beat a Fiend Deck."

He's got 1400 attack, I might consider running three of them and 3 messengers to see how it works, could become very good indeed :D