Are we thinking that the same factions that we saw last game are going to be Town/Mafia, respectively, or do we think that it has changed?

Also, forgot to add my Option B above. Need coffee.

What do you mean by it making it easier for mafia to take out a player altogether? It seems to me like it would be more difficult.

I mean that we all essentially have two lives. If we take out someone on day 1, they will be down a life, making the player easier to taken out of the game altogether.

I would make no assumptions as far as last game to this game. The only thing for sure is that the listed factions are against Sineater.

Please explain.

Scum hunting is out of place?

Calling it a push seems an exaggeration. I asked Jack to comment. But tongue in cheek (no, I didn't actually expect him to say "yep, we're totes a mafia you guys!") but I think assuming Sineater is the only thing we have to worry about is silly. Please explain where my logic goes wrong: Justice League is a group of characters working together -> Justice League is a likely mafia group in this game -> mafias have kills, and are more likely to kill town than not -> Lamplighter is in the JL -> Jack won with Lamplighter last game and said he was one of his favorite characters -> it's worth asking Jack about if he's Lamplighter and thus mafia.

Nope. Not upset. I have to toe a line between demanding answering and letting people play the game their way. If I don't demand, I get no answers. If I demand answers, it's just annoying to others.

As I said before, you appeared to be thinking about something else - I didn't find that scummy.

I also do not see Skullbro's double down that he did answer as scummy. He didn't, but he is more annoyed than flustered and doesn't feel a need to self justify, which is a pretty good sign alignment-imo, I think.

Considering how the storyline played out, I'd assume that the affiliations are up in the air as far as good/evil. Off the top of my head I think where the world ended up is:

Walu: Under Michael's control after he usurped Gangles. Could be either town/mafia considering there could be either Gangles-aligned or Michael-aligned
Umbrella: Sort of the same, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't some BTSC.
Lyle: I'm not sure who wound up in charge after the demise of the bastard Baron. Probably town-aligned more than mafia.
Moorscape: I'd be surprised if anyone was mafia aligned, they never really entered the World War.
Dragon City: It sounds like there's been a shift in leadership in Dragon's absence. I'd bet this alignment is the least telling as far as Town/Mafia/good/evil.
Kronn: Leadership dead, hard to say if any Kronnites will be present or where they'd fall alignmentwise.
The Loch: Absent from PC alignments last game, Hellspawn is likely here and I'd guess any Loch-folk are town.
Unaffiliated: Likely neutral, possibly still anti-Sineater given the win con listed on the first page.

@Bob

The rules explicitly state Sineater is a threat while Walu, Dragon City, Morroscape, etc are town. Furthermore, the Justice League is bigger than known Sineater faction members and we know there is probably a traitor among them so that we don't autoconfirm the whole group. This all says "town."

So when you say "Jack, can you confirm this thing I already know by claiming Lamplighter?" it reads as "I want to know if Jack is Lamplighter cause I want to know if I should just nightkill him ASAP."

There are other reasons that could explain this behavior but it's a fair ping.

Which is why he's under my scrutiny (me looking at him funny), but I'm not immediately pushing for his lynch.

Re:Grizzz faction theories


I'd imagine bad guys are just Sineater aligned. So the Pig is from Dragon City but is probably not Dragon City aligned.

I'd be surprised if there weren't baddies running around outside of Sineater and Co. Last game had 2 mafia factions, an SK, plus however you classify Kronn, who I believe had a kill and 3-4 members but no BTSC. It's possible there's one big Mafia, which would fit thematically, but I don't want to rule out any possibilities this early.

Hey guys, I've never played in a plurality voting mafia game before. I'm curious to know how the game changes/feels vs. the usual voting style.

This thing I already know? I'm not Justice League affiliated in the slightest, but I'm "town" (which in this game really stands for "I don't have an alternate win condition"). So I'm trying to get a feel for whether I need to be hunting for a couple mafia groups or just the one. After all, Providence was clearly the big bad in the last game, but we still had Walu, Umbrella, and Jackal making kills. I realize this game isn't exactly the same, but I'm not treating the "all we have to do is kill Sineater" as iron-clad. He may not even be in the game yet, and we have to little down other groups first. Who k ow what Stranger has planned for the final Hybridity game.

Besides, if I was scum and trying to figure out if you were Lamplighter because I want to kill Justice League, I'd just kill you at night anyway. Either you're Lamplighter and I get what I want, or you're not Lamplighter and I eliminated a threat and know that you're likely Lamplighter now. What I wouldn't do is call attention to any of this in thread.

Boy it would've been nice to get this explanation from either BoyBlunder or Roy, though.