I dont doubt that there has been spoiler leakage somewhere and @ sometime. I do believe it is an unfair advantage and if UDE has any reason to believe that this is the case then they should release the spoiler early. I just dont believe teams or people should be named if there is not any evidence.

Decpite the fact that UDE is not responsible (directly) for this, I think they should release some kind of statement. Rumours like this are very bad for bussiness and them saying, "We have not now, nor have we ever released spoilers for......to certain players." Then adding something about, "Some employs have been suspected of doing so and have been put under investigation." Would be fine. And then taking some kind of action to counter it. Now, I'm not great at this kind of thing, but I'm sure they can manage to fix it. Though I doubt they'd take any steps like that until this gets way out of porportioin...which it may be headed towards.

Name one person or team.

Name one person or team to take this out of the realm of urban legend. No I know a guy, everyone knows it happens, or here's a spoiler list for a set that came out a year ago. Name one person or team. If so many people know about it, why can't anyone give up a name? If people have the knowledge of who has the spoiler list why don't they honesty to say who is receiving the list.

Everyone knows it is true? Kind of like how people know about that thing with Richard Gere, what happens with Pop Rocks and Coke, that a CD hanging from your rearview mirror will fool a radar gun, or that the CIA invented crack?

Name one person or team. Otherwise you are just the VS version of the black helicopter crowd.

UDE really wouldn't lose THAT much from releasing the spoiler early to everyone weather this is true or just a rumor. (i believe it is true though. Since those who said they have early mk spoilers would be laughing stocked if they didn't really have it, and they would have gained nothing out of it)
Reasons why people buy the cards:
-They enjoy playing the game
-They want to know what the cards do ASAP
-They want to win the pc/10k/pcq/HL tournaments

Through everyone putting what they got at the sneek peeks you =get spoiler. The cards don't magically get purchasable at stores, the sneek peeks are early and in a week or so (once everybody knows what the set is) are at your local card shop. Upperdeck isn't going to lose money of not selling packs because of the -They want to know what the cards do ASAP factor because it's already beknown the day after the sneek peek.
Since everyone intelligent knows this, people should inform upperdeck about this if they havn't seen the thread, and it should be given early so EVERYONE has a near equal shot at the pc.
The thing they ARE losing giving it early is the metagame and other sites revealing 1 card every day.
What is a MORE important thing, people get the joy of seeing 10-20 cards 1 week before the sneek peek, or people seeing it all so there is as little cheating as possible as something as high as a pc.
Hans is gone from UDE tournaments from a "cheating" at a pc. They say they take it seriously so show the people more than once there serious about pc's by preventing the cheating and showing it early just in case!

why would ppl report friends/possible friends/usually respectable ppl?

Does seem a bit strange doesn't it? Someone is bound to argue that they simple don't wish to betray someones trust by pointing a figure or that a pro wouldn't slip in showing at least a few spoliers. I just don'rt see people that comitted in either if so many actual know of it. I mean I'm sure they would sell the list if someone paid high enough.

this is what i was trying to say before....if u cant see these things in 6 weeks of time or well a month....nothing it going to make you see them....

If you knew someone had a map to a buried treasure and they let you see it . And you knew only maybe 15 other people have seen it would you go tell everyone who has it or go look for the treasure for yourself ( or in this case get to test 6 weeks more than everyone but those 15 others . ) Thats why you will never know who has it just that it exists . People can guess on who but no one will know .

Well, it's not that people buy the cards because they didn't have the spoilers. It would be more an issue of 'hype', building excitement, etc ...

(a) Have you seen the reaction to sneak preview articles that show off cards that were already spoiled? Well ... consider all the articles being of spoiled cards ... They wouldn't be generating hype so much as rehashing what would already be going on around the boards. Not to mention they wouldn't really generate much speculation considering that we'd know what everything else was.

(b) Once the spoiler is out ... that's the 'end' more or less ... until people can actually start buying the cards of course. There will be excitement for a little while as people decide what they want, how they want to build, etc, etc, etc. But in terms of generating excitement for the pre-release having the spoiler out TOO early will ultimately hurt some of the exitement going on.

Remember the delay on the Superman set?

In general, the longer time between the spoiler and the set, the more the 'newness' will rub off, and the less the initial excitement will be there to push sales.

I think that any eadge that people can get, they will abuse and that make me mad, but not surprised. I have to take a busniss ethics class in college because profesionals are doing things like that and are costing innocent people their livlyhoods.

I hope that it isn't true but I have heard similar things from some VS pros that shop at the same shops that I go to.

They do have NDAs, in theory. Of course, I haven't heard them specifically say this and I haven't seen one, but I'm assuming they exist. And yet, the spoiler still got leaked.

I'm just saying that a harsh penalty for someone who had no obligation not to receive a spoiler from someone with no right to give the spoiler away seems a little out of place. I can definitely see 2-3 months; that will cover the prerelease and the PC in question. But a longer ban, upwards to and including a lifetime ban? Yeah, that seems a bit both extreme and unneccessary.

Now, when the leakers get caught, they should be punished to the maximum amount allowable by their contract, as they DID sign an NDA. If they put such stringent penalties in as them getting fired, I hope they can their asses.

But the players with the spoilers never signed nor agreed to anything in exchange for the early information, and so should not be punished nearly as harshly.

I have a friend on the forums. This friend, in the past, would somehow know an awful lot about the upcomming sets. Little things like stats, to big things like the text on a card or uber combos.

I haven't heard from this friend in a while, and I'm not sure they're still even on the board.

Not to fuel the flames, but it makes a man wonder.

getting advanced spoilers does happen,i know this from XP. IT gives an unfair advantage, thats not cool.

to the naysayers YES it does happen, now the only thing that has to come from this is what to do about it.

I'd be in WAY more hype if they gave us the spoiler so atlanta for everyone (including myself) would be more fair.
As for the articles, have the articles be more of a "card of the day" review as in how it could be playing a part in golden age or marvel modern age. That would still be an interesting article to read, and the pc would be better for the most part.

What's more important since upperdeck has slipped and employee's havn't been taking this seriously. People getting less hype out of a sneek peek, or possibly costing people money because they got a lack of time for deckbuilding.
Hopefully upperdeck can put a stop to this, but they need to decide what there going to do in this situation (and apparently stopping 1 person for cheating at a pc, is more importantly than effecting EVERY participant at atlanta who was put at a disadvantage)

yawn yawn.

all you people crying for a complete spoiler, get over it.

If they wanted to release a spoiler they would.

No, the way to solve the issue of a leak is not to give the cards to everyone else... that's probably the stupidest thing I ever heard.

If this even is happening (I rarely believe anything I hear on forums) then lets leave it to UDE to find the source of the leak. This is an enternal thing for their company, and for us to act like it's going to have any major effect on us is just... well it's BS is what it is.

So stop crying and stop spreading rumors. I thought the realms was getting better with this kind of thing, but guess not.