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Originally posted by bradley2099 Why does Cap have Imp? He shouldn't have it. He should be hard to hit, not hard to damage.
The shield is impervious. He took a full power swing, backed by the Odin force, from Thor one time. Picked himself up and dusted himself off and was fine. His arm was a little sore, but other wise he was fine. How many people do you know in comics who can walk away from one of those with out any ill effects?
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1) Very, veeeery happy with Cap. Yep, time for HT Batman versus Punisher, the the HT Batman versus Ultimate Cap.
2) Slightly disappointed with Doc Ock. Always been a big fan of that villain.
It's not a bad dial. It is very playable. But, since Ultimate Ock can morph his tentacle-tips into different weaponry, I expected a little more variety, I guess.
Still, I'll be just as happy to play this one as I was his CT version.
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Captain America might be slightly over the top, but it is Ultimate Captain America, so I suppose it all fits. This is a headliner Captain America, one you build your team around who can hold his own against the game's top characters and can fight effectively throughout his dial. I like it!
Originally posted by IronManI The shield is impervious. He took a full power swing, backed by the Odin force, from Thor one time. Picked himself up and dusted himself off and was fine. His arm was a little sore, but other wise he was fine. How many people do you know in comics who can walk away from one of those with out any ill effects?
Really Wow. You saw that comic? When did Ultimate Captain America take a hit like that from Thor? I must of missed that Ultimate Issue!
Ghost Rider has a flaming skull, Fire lets out smoke, hence smoke cloud, Yes it is ####tacular. I would rather have him have poison. whats the point of Smoke Cloud without stealth? Its like RCE with a range of 2, o wait we got that too.
Spidey - Cheap, effective, and fun. I'm not sure why they won't let him have higher than a 16 Defense with Super Senses, but the Willpower is interesting anyhow. Now I have three solid Spideys to choose from in my Wildcard teams (V Ult, V CM, E Uni)
Wolverine - Brotherhood TA is a nice touch. Not much new here, but still appreciated. You knew he would be in the set, at least he is a little different. it seems like the excessive 3 Damage clicks and the U-Xmen TA have driven his cost up a little. Exploit Weakness would be devastating, but I think over the top for a non-Unique.
Ghost Rider - Smoke Cloud is kinda iffy, but it must be dirt-cheap. Incapacitate for the whole dial wold cost way more than this. No matter what figure you stuck on this dial, it would be a good-cost effective bruiser. I anticipate that the LE (which we know has been made) may have the power set that GR fans are looking for, much like LE Psylocke.
Punisher - Smoke Cloud is even odder here, when Energy Explosion seemed such a natural to me. Still, it has its uses and is inexpensive. This looks like a figure just on the cusp of greatness. Short dial, little damage reduction, and relatively high cost keep me from ranking him higher. I will still play him with glee.
Doctor Octopus - Cheap outwit, decent combatant, Veteran has Sinister Syndicate TA. I honestly can't complain. I see this as a staple Marquee piece, and a balanced figure. I suspect that the Vet has Super Strength like the Exp on his Battle Fury Clicks.
Captain America - Holy smokes, that's a mean Cap! This is what I have been waiting for! If this is how WizKids remakes figures that they didn't do so well the first time, bring 'em on! I honestly expected his Vet at 103 to be mostly Team Ability, but this Cap really shines.
Bring on Ultimates! This looks like the set that will really get me excited with Marvel HeroClix again. Kudos, WizKids!
Wow Ultimates is really smoke cloud happy. How much longer until we get a Wolvey with Smoke Cloud. GR is much better off with poison, like Angelus in Indy. She has clix of poison before she gets blades to represent her burning touch (or Penence Stare.) I still think that Big Pun should at least get a click of blades on his last click with willpower as a last ditch effort to stay alive. At least Cap. A doesnt have Smoke Cloud.
OK, understatement, Cap is very cool and finally does justice to his character. Spidey's alright, so is Wolverine. Doc Ock, meh. The Adam Warlock award of the set goes to Ghost Rider. He's playable I guess, but who the hell is he? Charge, L/C, INC, Inv, Tou all fit, but whats the deal with Smoke cloud?!?!? They should have given him EW or PB to represent the penance stare and he also should have battle fury all the way down his dial, he's the Spirit of Vengance for crying out loud, not the Marvel smoke machine!
Uhm, I don't know which Superman you're talking about, but KC, SOD, and OWAW would totally own up on Vet Cap. Sorry to burst yer bubble, but KC Supes in particular outguns him and after 5 points of damage, Cap is pretty much useless and easy to knock out the rest of the way...
So far, unimpressed with this set...
Ghost Rider - No ultimates TA? I'd rather have exp Colossus than the vet Ghost Rider. I can activate Colossus without pushing (using X-Men TA), more invulnerability (not like it matters w/outwit..), and more toughness. Maybe not as good of defense or attack, but a little easier to heal w/the X-Men TA and low defense for paramedic...
Spidey - Critical Mass was probably the best version...
Doc Ock - Hmm, lemme see here. Yes, he does get outwit, but the CT versions seems to be around +2 AV, +1 defense, faster moving, with willpower for generally the same point cost or lower..
Wolverine - Did we really need another one? The rookie is brotherhood? Great, another sabretooth type figure... Sabretooth is just fine... The unique Wolverine is better with the 12 AV and stealth.
Captain America - Not bad, but not that excited over him. Then again, I thought his normal REV wasn't all that terrible...
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Originally posted by IronManI Awesome Vet Cap! Can wait for mixed games with DC.
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I see nothng that would warrent me spending an extra $1 a booster. Captain America looks cool, as well as Ghost Rider. The rest all have previous versions that are more playable (except Punisher, he seems a little overcosted considering there are more effective ranged attackers).
Also considering the fact that there will be more than a few Morlocks in the set, I'll just buy boosters at the Marquee's.
As we learned with Unleashed, a few choice Uniques does not a playable set make.