Oh, and this is cool, a 2-2 final Day isn’t the end-all-be-all for Town in regards for Plurality

In theory, it’s a roll of the dice at the end of the day if it’s obvious who is Mafia and who is Town. I may not agree with it (I personally think tied endgame goes to Scum), but that’s something for tomorrow maybe.

The thing about the JK claim is that it removes our one shot “home free” card — we chop, miss, and then wolves miss too. But while that’s a decent probability, it’s not super great in any case.


The correct choice of action is to sleep today and then see where we’re at tomorrow. Only bad shot is if the JK dies over night, which would deprive us of some info. We can all post JK actions though and then if they flip we know

Hmm I’d ask Gira on that tbh. Standard win con is wolves win with parity, wouldn’t want to risk some random nonsense

That makes sense.

I see no benefit in going No Elimination. The Jailkeep succeeded in stopping a Kill. They will LIKELY target the same target. Mafia can just switch Killer/Target.

I would rather chance a Mafia Yeet today than gamble on a successful stop AGAIN tonight.

Jailkeep outs their target. We Yeet them. That’s it.

Now, if the Mafia chose to Kill me expecting a Jailkeep to target me, for the sole purpose of leading to this line of thinking on my behalf? Kudos, well played. But again, the Math is stronger that Jailkeep hit the Killer.

So looking back at yesterday’s vote, my gut reaction is this post led the JK to target K-Ness. Morph or CV. Guessing CV, since Morph is voting for me *shrugs*

If the JK targeted me, then it means I was the kill target. I'm very much Town.

All evidence to the contrary.

It makes sense to out the Jailkeep after a Kill is stopped. Saying it “makes literally no sense” simply isn’t true. Like, there’s an argument against it, but I personally think the argument For it is stronger.

And “ready to vote for you” isn’t really the threat a Town member would make. Drop the vote, I don’t care, Plurality means a dropped vote means nothing until day ends. For instance

Vote: K-Ness

Am I mistaken that you're a skilled mafia player? Really, your statements contradict what I've come to know of you. They don't make sense, and they are hedging on significant gambles.

Honestly, I am the mafia's best friend this game (similar to the most recent Smash Bros. game). My reads have all been off, so it's likely you're actually town just because everyone who I've pegged has been the opposite at this point.

I commented to my husband earlier that I wouldn't be surprised if the mafia is Adam and Tony. That would at least explain why the two of them are both still alive.

I'm really starting to lean more against darq the more I read

Au contraire, I am the Mafia’s Best Friend this game! Led the lynch on two Townies. I officially suck in that department.

And for what it’s worth, I am not a skilled vanilla Mafia player. Im much better when it comes to themes and powers. Hence likely why I’m focusing on the power in the game and how I think it should be utilized

Well that’s depressing.

Again, I see NO reason for the Jailkeep. It to put their target. You have a Guaranteed 50/50 shot at Mafia. A shot in the dark is less than 1/3 since Mafia will influence a “random” vote.

…stupid autocorrect. “not to out their target”

My initial thought on the power when the game started was that it was much better than a cop, as it acted as both a block and doctoring. Then I realized that we don't need a saving power; we need an info-gathering power. While the jailkeep can give some information to the players, the information can be misleading.

HCRealms Mafia players are NOT used to this format of game. We have to use social deduction to determine who is who, and one of the downsides to a game like this here is that most players are quiet unless they have something to go off of. We need discussion throughout the day from players, but we have no driving force for discussion. This means players come and go at their leisure, and no one is putting up a real defense when they get a vote on them.