I love Ogre threads. We break all the rules. The only thing keeping us down is the damn filter.

Religion?
Politics?
Sites-That-Must-Not-Be-Named?

Screw it! We talk about it!

And no one reports each other; not even the Mods who are Ogres!!

Yeah, it's a tough call, especially considering what the player was able to work onto his team with that small overage of points, especially with the T-Bolting going to Mystics.

At the top of my list of arguments against simply letting it slide, though, is the sense that this could encourage someone to make an "error" on a future build tally. A 78 pt Spider-man being listed as 73 points -- Oh! It looked like a 3 instead of an 8! -- might slip by and then be allowed to stand. Putting the pressure on each player to police himself - knowing that an error discovered later could cost him his victory points -- may be what's called for especially in a format like this.

Still, that's a difficult line to tow retroactively.

Heh. Well, it's only blocked if one runs it together so that it's the site's actual address name, in which case it's caught by the swear filter. If I'd had to play with formatting more covertly to get it to show, I'd likely have just used a euphemism.

Thank you. That was a very well thought out answer. The way I keep track is it's based off victory points. But then each tournament is divided by the number of total points available in increments of 100. So a 300 point tournament has 900 points available. If they have a bye round they only have 600 available. I then divide their total victory points for the tournament by 9 (or 6 if they had a bye round). A 600 point tournament would be divided by 18 because a total of 1800 points were possible. This levels out every tournament. So over the course of 4 weeks (that's the length of the total "Who Will Wield The Shield Event" there is a total of 400 points possible.

The current standings for 1st through 4th are...

1st – 282
2nd – 236
3rd – 138
4th – 116

So you can see what I do with 2nd place (the person in question) will have a big impact on 2nd, 3rd, and 4th place.

You noticed after the fact, so I would count it. As a judge I may tell him that if he wins the brick it would be nice of him to give some boosters to at least the 2nd place guy due to his illegal team. Not required, but nice of him.

Believe it or not, I thought she was actually worse than Megan Fox!!!

It had something that somewhat resembles a story. More so than the second one. But remember, it is a Micheal Bay film...

Heh. I can sincerely say this has never been a complaint. At least not one made directly to me.

I MUST go read this...

I even repped you for this one.

Our judge here doesn't but the venue I frequented in Los Angeles did. He entered all the data into his laptop after the first round would start and even tracked everyone's Wins-Losses overall (not just that tourney). Personally I like the idea of having to validate your teams.

Yeah, its gold. I'll give him this - he's thorough!

And that is why I will see it (and any Bay flick)! Darn the story, darn the physicis, darn the math, give me some explosions! He makes flicks you can eat popcorn to (see Eddie Izzard)!

YEAH!!!!!!

The new thread will have the longest thread title ever!!!!!

If I were to find myself in this situation as you describe, I would declare the event a wash and call for a "do-over", removing all victory points awarded for the event in question. Sometimes being Head Judge means we have to make unpopular decisions, but I find this is better than allowing ire to be directed at any one player in general for what may be an honest mistake.

Folk may feel a bit burned that now their strategies are out there for consideration, but this is mitigated by the fact that so is everyone else's.

It at least burns everyone equitably and allows for a good learning experience. If you explain why, I can guarantee that your players will pay more attention to their own and each other's builds in the future!

*shrugs*

A few questions before you make such a drastic decision, though:

1.) Did any of the players have to pay to play in this event?
2.) How many weeks do you have left before it's over?
3.) How many weeks has said player been over on points, or was it a one time thing?
4.) How many points are awarded per victory?

The poor slob does not realize how many times HE has been reported by Ogres.

Right. I remember when we were discussing another element of this early in the process I especially liked how you factored out the bye round.

Making a one-time, special adjustment as judge (for an unanticipated circumstance) is going to be called for, I think. You can agonize over the details or just go from the gut with it and declare it simply To Be. As MunchoBoy said, you're the judge and opening it to discussion among the players involved will not help the situation.

Make a call on it - Look at the points he won in those matches and make an adjustment to them - and then move on. Based on the rankings it'll just increase the lead #1 has while giving nos 2 & 3 more reason to press ahead strongly. Make the decision, pronounce it, and move on.

Establishing how such point issues will be addressed from here on out will be the more important thing.