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Silver Surfer seems to be a mixed bag so far...I really think he could turn out to be one of the best characters to build a team around of any. He is self-serving too...he would do well in pretty much any situation other than a team stacked with outwit (which only a fool wouldn't target outwitters first), not to mention it takes some luck to hit an 18. I've had sucess with Thanos and I'm hearing a lot of comparisons to him here...Surfer is a far better figure...his regenration will put him on his nastiest clix with Imperious and a four damage and that will mostly be late in a game when a team that has been wittled down can't handle that kind of offense and defense. He's my favorite comic character and I think he's underpowered but we still got a figure that is very playable on every click. Hes starts off with the best range in the game and an defender team freindly 18 defense and then turns into a all out offensive machine who's difficult to hurt and then he gets the chance to get all that back again with regeneration...I already have some great teams planned for this figure and he may even be useful in a 300 point game.
I think the new hulk is pretty dissapointing... and Silver surfer should definitely have a few more powers cause what he has definitely does not represent the power cosmic.
I think the new hulk is pretty dissapointing... and Silver surfer should definitely have a few more powers cause what he has definitely does not represent the power cosmic.
OK, it seems this thread is a better place for my previous posting. Enjoy.
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Not going to say.....anything.....must hold tongue.......not comic book game.....errrrrr...AHHHHH!!
OK, I can hold my tongue no longer. Earth bound Surfer???That sounds like people trying to justify Supermans MAX 3 Damage by saying he pulls his punches.
Sheesh, the Surfer was made good for gameplaying Im sure, but come on, Im NOT a Surfer fanboy but the guy deserves BETTER than this.
No EE, No PW, No RCE, No HSS, No Charge, and only Running Shot for ONE CLICK. Please, lets not just sit here and say hes a good representation, he stinks.
AGAIN, sure gameplay wise Im sure you can think of lots of great things for him, but for a fan of comics it looks as if WK toned down the Surfer ON PURPOSE, and even made that one of their first CM annoucements "there will be other characters more powerful than the Silver Surfer". Sure they will, you made a 190 to 200 point character 20 to 30 points and took away nearly all of his powers.
YES, hell be a good playing piece, but Geeze, thats NOT the Silver Surfer. I mean come on, weve been waiting for him for how long now, we couldnt have gotten one alittle closer to who he is? In a time where were getting the powerful guys made much better than in IC or HT, why water down Marvel most powerful hero???
Again, IM NOT A SURFER FANBOY, Id be fine with him without HSS, or even without RCE, but no EE, or PW and RS for just his first click. Thats just toning him down on purpose, to fit him in a set point range, and thats just wrong.
and NO, you cant have mine if I get one....I didnt say I didnt WANT one (I am a collector you know) I just said Im disappointed with how he was made.
And for the record, giving him more powers and upping his cost WOULD NOT make him not worth playing. He would be just as playable as other high point characters as Thor, Dr. Doom, Amazo and so on. This is NOT a contest of playability vs representation, this is me saying why cant we have a better mixture of BOTH, and sorry but this just isnt it.
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Originally posted by DTM No EE, No PW, No RCE, No HSS, No Charge, and only Running Shot for ONE CLICK. Please, lets not just sit here and say hes a good representation, he stinks.
Actually, there is no way to truly represent the Power Cosmic. But based on the comics, Silver Surfer doesn't have EE, PW or RCE. He doesn't make huge explosions or waves of power. He blasts a foe with a concentrated beam. And as to RCE? He hits as hard in HTH as he does at range, so that makes no sense.
People have to stop expecting "color" on a dial for its own sake. Like everyone I feel 1 click of Running Shot is too few. Other than that, he is good. HSS definitely wouldn't fit. He just doesn't move that way in the comics. High move yes, HSS power no.
He doesnt use Energy Explosion? He blasts Cosmic Power ALL the time, when they hit things, they EXPLODE, ALL the time.
He can also radiate Cosmic Power, which would easily work as Pulse Wave, easily.
OK, RCE I can understand, but for Gods Sake take away the ending 1 Damage on his dial.
True, its hard to pick powers for a character that can do anything, but a single Running Shot, a few last clicks of Support and Body Armor is the best they could do???
Hes only at 173 points, why make him so low when they can make him at the 190 to 200 point mark and better show the powers he has?? They did it for so many other heavy hitters, why not Surfer? Are they trying to prove a point or something?
People have been waiting for him for how long, hes one of Marvels most powrful characters, and he gets made at 173 points?? Sounds like theyre following the Doomsday point scale for him, which is definately disappointing to this HC collector.
Again, Im sure hell be great to play, as Darkseid is, but the Darkseid HC we have AINT Darkseid, just as this just isnt the Silver Surfer.
And dont get me started on the HULK. Geeze, a single high click of 4 Damage for one of his strongest forms......yeah, ok.
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He doesnt use Energy Explosion? He blasts Cosmic Power ALL the time, when they hit things, they EXPLODE, ALL the time.
He can also radiate Cosmic Power, which would easily work as Pulse Wave, easily.
And HSS, thats for blasting and moving away.....and Surfer doesnt DO that? He doesnt blast opponents as he moves on to avoid their attacks? What he just flies in, say HI IM HERE and blasts away? Of course not.
OK, RCE I can understand, but for Gods Sake take away the ending 1 Damage on his dial.
True, its hard to pick powers for a character that can do anything, but a single Running Shot, a few last clicks of Support and Body Armor is the best they could do???
Hes only at 173 points, why make him so low when they can make him at the 190 to 200 point mark and better show the powers he has?? They did it for so many other heavy hitters, why not Surfer? Are they trying to prove a point or something?
People have been waiting for him for how long, hes one of Marvels most powrful characters, and he gets made at 173 points?? Sounds like theyre following the Doomsday point scale for him, which is definately disappointing to this HC collector.
Again, Im sure hell be great to play, as Darkseid is, but the Darkseid HC we have AINT Darkseid, just as this just isnt the Silver Surfer.
And dont get me started on the HULK. Geeze, a single high click of 4 Damage for one of his strongest forms......yeah, ok
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Sorry, I checked before and it hadnt posted my first post, so I did a second one, cept it did BOTH. Sorry all.....though there is an HSS section I added to the second one, so I guess theyre not exactly the same.
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I'm too lazy to read through the whole thread, so this might be answered somewhere already but, Are there any Archenemies in this set? If so, who are they?
I'm too lazy to read through the whole thread, so there might already be an answer posted for this but, are there any archenemies in this set? If so, who are they?
I'm too lazy to read through the whole thread, so there might already be an answer posted for this but, are there any archenemies in this set? If so, who are they?