Aye mate, EW was practically MADE for Batman. As long as he's got at least 4 damage that is

By that logic, then so can Mandarin, Black Panther, Dormammu, etc, etc, etc.... Anyone can cause damage to Supes.

Heck, I'd even say that this Cap would give the Rookie Supes a run for the money..

This isn't Cap. This is Ultimates Captain America. But the question I have is why does this version of Captain America have Impervious? He is not indestructible. If that was Willpower, I think it might have made me a happy Cap fan. But no, it just couldn't be right. Toughness even, I could take. But it's as hard to damage him as the Hulk or Superman. I don't think so.

*shrug* to Punisher and Ghost Rider - not seeing anything amazing stat/dial wise.

However, I really dig the other chars - Spidey, and Wolverine are really nice, and of course Cap looks extraordinary in all three versions.

I also really like Doc Ock actually - he looks really playable for that price, and you get a little nice outwit, lots of EE, and SS TA in the vet - just great!

If the entire Ultimates set is this high quality (playability-wise) it could easily be regarded as the best HC set for some time to come.

Maybe they're taking into the fact that he's hiding behind his shield for a few clicks...? *shrug*

As far as Cap having Imp., I think some people forgot about the two aspects of impervious (inv + SS) Cap can avoid a hit b/c of his super soldier status AND he can take a hit because of his shield. And yeah one solid hit on his first click and he flies right past it, so its no too game breaking.

Impervious, sounds like cap and him using his shield to me!

but here's the thing. While spidey/wolverine do look ok, they aren't much different than what's already out there. Doc Ock is the same. Sure, you get outwit, but at what cost? no willpower, lower movement rate, lower AV (thus forcing you to put in another SS or wildcard for the vet), lower defense, etc. EE at a short range really doesn't bother me too much. I'd rather have the super strength and take away that heavy object from a stealthed figure or from a HSS superstrengthed person (LE Supes, KC Supes, Amazo, Black Adam, etc.).

Plus CM Spidey is probably the best to date and the one from universes is also a nice compromise and playable as is. There really isn't a need yet for a dupe spidey.

my take:

another duplicate spidey...willpower on the first click is cool but he plays just like the rest! still no spidey with charge, no spidey with perplex, no spidey with flight! dissappointing! black suit spidey still the only playable one!

logan part 3 this time its pretty much the same...but with lower stats! two 8 attack bcf flurry so i can miss twice and all my mock my ultimate x men team!
i thought our ultimate counterparts were supposed to be hot carp?

captian america! finally done right! i like his first click with charge and leadership. thats what caps about! great stats useful power combos hes my new flagship(begs the question why did teh screw up spidey, doc ock, wolvie and ghosty?)

ghost rider. file under fantastic four theme team material. almost a waste of plastic.

dock ock! a 61 point vet outwitter! thanks for turning doc ock into a one trick pony. youll never see anything higher than a rookie is my bet.

overall i lost alot of interest in ultimates with this info and the punisher stats. it will take ultimate thor and ironman or at least loki or baron zemo to get me back on board cus right now im very dissappointed.

jmho

If Spiderman is No. 040 for Ultimates and according to LE's in the sets just means we finally will have a Peter Parker LE. That's music to my ears.

That new cap is sweet!

Scorpian was on MoE so that's correct...sure he was also on Sinister Syndicate (I think).
Yep, Beast should have gotten Avengers at least once.
Moondragon would have been nice with Spidey TA since she was not only on defenders butn also very often with the Avengers.
Spiral has MoD to represent her various magical powers.

There's no GR in the Ultimate Universe I believe.

The one they made was Dan Ketch the 2nd Ghost Rider (but also the most famous!)...

well...I said it all.

Love the new Cap, as does everybody else. Ghost Rider is a little disappointing. I'm pleasantly suprised with the 4 damage, but like someone else said earlier, he should have exploit weakness to go along with that high damage. The attack value is nice, the smoke cloud is worthless, where is the regeneration? Charge and the l/c are also nice, but expected, still they could've done him a lot more accurate. He should be a little more powerful in my opinion, like 115-125 point range.
Doc Ock is disappointing, as is Wolverine. Punisher is decent, and Spiderman is too. Of course, I'm tired of seeing the same dial for Spiderman over and over and over and over...........

What's up with people complaining about Unleashed? There was a very large percentage of playable figures in that set, especially compared to the pantsload that was Critical Mass. Sure, the uniques were a little overpowered and tended to dominate in sealed, but if you ignore Big Barda and maybe two-face, every other figure in that set was well-designed and playable.

Cap is good but not godly like people seem to beleive. He only has a damage reducing defensive power on half his dial. Plus if he gets hit for 3 damage at the start those impervious clicks are passed right by and into lame combat reflexes. His to hits are good, but only does 2 damage aside from that first click which he won't be on for long, due to his charging into the enemy. So while cool he does suffer from a glass jaw.:knockedou He reminds me of the 160 point electra, potentiallly lethal, potentially a pasty smear.