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Cost cutting for the sake of costing cutting is never a good business practice *snip*
I really, honestly, don't see it as "cost-cutting". I think it was a measure taken to ensure the set shipped on time, as they were in a big rush to get the set out and win back the fanbase.
Also, I love how people who dislike Print and Play act like they are the majority and continuously fight in every thread about it. There was a poll and 80% of realmsers liked Print and Play, meaning unless you can win over 40% or so of realmsers in a month or so with arguments that are, let's face it, quite selfish, then you will just have to deal with it.
In understand your point, but i dont think this Change anything. is the same or better, because the Feat or BC are Just
suport, they no meda you better... here made the Game Even for us. actualy is just for Hot. i dont know maybe make some unbalance game in the states, but here (Where We are poor) this is the best thing EVER!
Also, as I saw elsewhere: The game should be about how well you play, not how big your wallet is. This helps curtail some of the wallet-strength and enhances someone's ability to play the game by giving them more options.
I really, honestly, don't see it as "cost-cutting". I think it was a measure taken to ensure the set shipped on time, as they were in a big rush to get the set out and win back the fanbase.
Also, I love how people who dislike Print and Play act like they are the majority and continuously fight in every thread about it. There was a poll and 80% of realmsers liked Print and Play, meaning unless you can win over 40% or so of realmsers in a month or so with arguments that are, let's face it, quite selfish, then you will just have to deal with it.
Like it or not, it is here to stay.
I love how you people who are advocating it, throw around the results of that poll, like it is some kind of God send. 269 people have voted on that poll. Hardly what I'd call a 'majority' of anything. How many users on HC Realms? 269 isn't even close to a 'majority' of users here. How many HC players worldwide? 269 isn't even close to enough of a # of people to get an accurate depiction of what the real majority would want. It's quite possible that the numbers could be the same, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Sorry, but using that poll as 'proof' of anything is deluded at best.
Also, unless I missed it, was it ever confirmed that PnP was going to be the policy from now on?
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I love how you people who are advocating it, throw around the results of that poll, like it is some kind of God send. 269 people have voted on that poll. Hardly what I'd call a 'majority' of anything. How many users on HC Realms? 269 isn't even close to a 'majority' of users here. How many HC players worldwide? 269 isn't even close to enough of a # of people to get an accurate depiction of what the real majority would want. It's quite possible that the numbers could be the same, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Sorry, but using that poll as 'proof' of anything is deluded at best.
Also, unless I missed it, was it ever confirmed that PnP was going to be the policy from now on?
While I'll agree that a sample does not equate "proof" to any large degree, the poll results are evidence that the majority of the folk who took the time to vote do support PnP.
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I got nuttin'
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I really, really, really wish there was a real-life situation where I could tell a large group of people, "YOU ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO SPEAK THE WORDS TO LIONEL RICHIE'S SONG, HELLO, AS YOU ARE INTIMIDATING PEOPLE."
I love how you people who are advocating it, throw around the results of that poll, like it is some kind of God send. 269 people have voted on that poll. Hardly what I'd call a 'majority' of anything. How many users on HC Realms? 269 isn't even close to a 'majority' of users here. How many HC players worldwide? 269 isn't even close to enough of a # of people to get an accurate depiction of what the real majority would want. It's quite possible that the numbers could be the same, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Sorry, but using that poll as 'proof' of anything is deluded at best.
Also, unless I missed it, was it ever confirmed that PnP was going to be the policy from now on?
Well then rock the vote . The way I see it, people that didn't vote were the ones who didn't care either way, as it was a front page poll.
Well, I'd go get the link to the RA's post. He did say from here on out it is Print and Play. You trying to think that it won't be allowed in the future is deluded.
So far, it's the same people over and over that are crying fowl, and the same people are telling those people to shut up. Everyone else just doesn't care enough about it to get in a huff. It's an official decision, go ahead and complain and yell. I highly doubt that a group that isn't even close to the minority will change WK/Neca's mind when so many others are supporting it.
i see no big deal about this, im gonna print out some bfcs that i never got and maybe a feat here and there, but as long as i dont see 8 protected on one team, this will be okay!
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The Enterprise can totally slap on the Infinity Gauntlet and hop in for a Batmobile joyride.
I love how you people who are advocating it, throw around the results of that poll, like it is some kind of God send. 269 people have voted on that poll. Hardly what I'd call a 'majority' of anything. How many users on HC Realms? 269 isn't even close to a 'majority' of users here. How many HC players worldwide? 269 isn't even close to enough of a # of people to get an accurate depiction of what the real majority would want. It's quite possible that the numbers could be the same, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Sorry, but using that poll as 'proof' of anything is deluded at best.
Also, unless I missed it, was it ever confirmed that PnP was going to be the policy from now on?
A majority of those who voted like PnP. It does offer a snap shot of what those who felt moved to vote felt about the topic.
WK/NECA will certainly listen to those results. It will also listen to those who send in private emails and comment to them an any Conventions they are at. If you dislike PnP, you still certainly have an opportunity to voice your feelings towards WK/NECA.
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So, if you think that the only reason the Yankees won was because they had the best team money can buy, then is it reasonable to assume that PnP levels the playing field among Heroclix players?
You seem to be jumping on both sides here.
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Well then rock the vote . The way I see it, people that didn't vote were the ones who didn't care either way, as it was a front page poll.
Well, I'd go get the link to the RA's post. He did say from here on out it is Print and Play. You trying to think that it won't be allowed in the future is deluded.
So far, it's the same people over and over that are crying fowl, and the same people are telling those people to shut up. Everyone else just doesn't care enough about it to get in a huff. It's an official decision, go ahead and complain and yell. I highly doubt that a group that isn't even close to the minority will change WK/Neca's mind when so many others are supporting it.
There you go again with the 'so many others'. What so many others? Perhaps I am just stupid, but I am failing to see the 'so many others'.
37,000 + members of the Realms. So let's say that half of those accounts are 'duplicate/troll' accounts. That gets us to 18,500. Let's say that a further 8,500 accounts are inactive and/or not here for HC. That gets us to 10,000. Now we have had 269 people vote on that poll. That's 2.69% that have voted, with 2.51% in favor. This doesn't even account for the thousands of HC players that have never been here before. When we still had a local HC scene (pretty much dead now) out of 15-20 of us, I only know of 4 guys that were even registered here, and only 3 of those 4 posted here with any regularity. You really can't come to any semblance of a logical conclusion as to what the majority of people want, from that poll.
That all aside, I am a consumer. I buy this product, and pay with my hard earned money. As a consumer, it is my right to voice my opinion when I want to. Whether I agree or disagree with the decisions the company is making. So for you tell (basically) me to shut up and stop #####ing about it, and just accept it because it's not going to change who are you again? A consumer, just like me. You agree with the decision, fine, I won't tell you that your opinion is wrong, and I won't tell you to shut up. However I am going to assume that you do not run a company of any sort? Because if you did, telling 20% of your customer base (using your poll, since that's how you want to justify it) to basically suck it up and take it, is not a very good business decision. I am going to keep voicing my opinion, and IMO this decision stinks. You don't like it, well no one is forcing you to read my posts. There is an ignore button for a reason, and you won't hurt my feeling by putting me on it
I don't know if you are a US citizen or not, but do you remember when that President, what was his name? Oh yes, George W. Bush, was elected, and the minority of voters were the ones that got him in
Good, bad or otherwise, the majority doesn't always win, and isn't always right. Didn't the 'majority' of people here want Chases to go away? How well did that one work out?
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I don't know if you are a US citizen or not, but do you remember when that President, what was his name? Oh yes, George W. Bush, was elected, and the minority of voters were the ones that got him in
I'm pretty sure (as a voting, American citizen), that George W. Bush was elected because he won enough State's Electoral College votes. The President is not elected by a direct vote of the people.
And, I suspect I should toss this in, that President, the one who liked cigars and women, Bill something or other, actually became President with a minority of votes as well. Had Perot or Bush not run, and it had been a one on one election, Clinton would have lost, because he too would have failed to gain a majority of Electoral College votes.
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