The sculpt is the Dan Ketch Ghost Rider, and I don't remember either being a Defender.

The original Ghost Rider was a member of the Champions of Los Angeles.

the smoke cloud on GR isnt what bothers me...its a cheap power...i will neverhave him use it but someone might, whatever

what mainly irks me is no regeneration...he can friggen reconsitute himself from ASHES OR LESS instantly, and we don't get even a single click of regen???? anyone who has ever read the only marvel character info books would know that GR was ranked amonst one of the most durable characters in the the marvel universe.

other than that though he is a good peice...4 damage with 12 move (6 charge) is nice...too bad charge and L/C can be at the same time =(

okay 1 more thing about the REV of GR...if REV follows his "history" like most other REVs do (the ones that do represent chartacer changes) then why does his E have a activation click??? During the middle of his series he was perma-ghost rider for quite a long time =(

cap rocks.
but
why no stealth for wolvie?

everyone looked good, but am I the only one who was hoping spiderman would have a flight base to simulate him webb slinging???? oh well cant win them all I suppose!!!good job wizkids!

The new Cap is awesome. Charge out of hindering terrain without a penalty. Hit stealthed targets hiding in the shadows. Will definatly be on a majority of my teams.

just a few comments:
1) This is an impressive Captain America. The problem is now it's harder to fit him on a team..... he's almost the centerpiece or 2ndary attacker now. That's not bad, just that I like being able to have a lot of heroes on my teams. if I only want one hero with a little support Ultimate Superman is the last word on that(right now, power creep is around the corner)
2) If this is the updated Captain America...... I wonder what the updated Batman will be like? (just to stoke the fanboy fires a bit)
3)Even though he came from the messed up Hypertime set(not to be confused with the ultimately eXtreemely messed up Infinity Challenge set) E Batman could still give him a run for his money..... more if the die rolls favor the Bat.

Cap rules. I don't like the Punisher as a character but his dial is ok. I'm dissapointed with Ghost Rider. I understand that this is the Ultimate GR, but it would have been nice to have a version of him with the FF team. I would prefer to have new figures rather than rehashes of previous ones with perfectly good dials (Doc Ock, Spiderman, myriad version of Wolverine). Cap definitely needed an upgrade so I'm not to bothered by that.

Btw, I find Unleashed to be a very good playable set. Even the generic figs are very playable. Gotham Undercover is my new favorite. He's awesome for his points.

this isn't Ultimate Ghost Rider...Ghost Rider hasn't been introduced in Ultimate Marvel.

Actually it doesn't anymore. Starting with Unleashed, they started to make LE's of some of the Higher level more desirable figures (a matter of opinion of course). Unleased does not contain LE's of the first 20 figures, so who knows about a Peter Parker LE.

This doesn't ####.

I don't see anything wrong with anybody. I am tired of seeing spider-man with superstrength before incapacitate. As cool as spidey with ss is, it isn't nearly important for the fig as incap is.

Wow they censor suk now, what is this world coming to.

For the last time:
THERE IS NO FRIGGIN' ULTIMATE GHOST RIDER!

He's not in the Ultimate comics. He's never been in the Ultimate comics. Hopefully, he'll never be in the Ultimate comics.

This is the 'new' Ghost Rider that appeared in comics in the early 90's. That doesn't make him an 'Ultimate' character.

The only things that this Ghost Rider has that even remotely associate him with the Ultimate comics are that a) He and the Ultimate comics are both made by Marvel, and b) he appears in a HeroClix expansion called 'Ultimates'.

Alright? Are we clear now? Is there anyone out there still confused?!

Alright, thank you.

And sorry for the outburst, but I'm getting really frustrated with people not 'getting' what's been posted a half-billion times already ...

This version of Cap is meant to be a frontliner, not the support piece that the IC Cap is.

They have already made 3 alternate timeline Batman figures. One was even designed by Jeff Grubb. I don't think Batman fans should be complaining.

I don't consider the IC Captain America or the Hypertime Batman messed up.

The game has shifted since the original sets came out. Back "in the beginning" 100-300 point builds were the design benchmark (even though there was some high priced figures in the original sets). Now with the later sets, the 400-600 point levels are being emphasized more. However, we are still getting figures that work well in the 100-300 games.

IC Cap is a good support piece (especially the veteran) for 200-400 point games. He's not designed as a front liner. Ultimate Cap is the front liner piece, the figure to build an army around.

Personally, I don't like the Ultimate Cap and I won't get the figure, but Jeff Grubb did a great job capturing that character. Hopefully we get some decent regular Universe figures in this set, too, besides Ghost Rider and Punisher (a Swordsman, Photon or Black Knight would be nice )

Yes, but ironically enough, all of these still are acceptable:
1) sucks
2) sucked
3) sucky
4) suckest
5) sucker