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Treat Pietro's hss instead as a "range" attack (him "running back to start position")
Or treat Wanda as a passenger, Pietro is just carrying her around with him as he goes
I think some clever power naming can help.
Charge = "Hang on, Sis, don't want to lose you!"
HSS = "Time to move, Wanda!"
Running Shot = "Over there, Pietro." (or "Take me over there, Pietro.")
Those seem to convey the idea that Pietro is carrying Wanda to me.
A special power can cover the range/close discrepancies.
"Hex Bolts: Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver have a range value of 6. Precision Strike. Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver's damage value is locked at 1 when making range attacks".
That let's them deal higher damage with close (Quicksilver's) attacks, but Scarlet Witch's attacks (range) will have the damage stick.
The figure would have PC, of course, to account for Wanda, and a variety of defenses based upon (mostly, anyway) Quicksilver's defensive options.
But if they did it, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a fairly vanilla Quicksilver dial and a fairly vanilla Scarlet Witch dial with a switching mechanic ala Power Man & Iron Fist.
The starter is January but the Cosmic Clash set is not until summer.
My sources have told me that the FF are commons, and I do not think that I am violating any confidentiality in saying so.
First four slots.
There may well be other versions at higher rarities, though.
The starter figures are supposed to be really good.
But this is Cap's thread so I will let him have it.
I wonder what all Iron Men we will get for his shifting focus.
I think that it would be better for an Iron Man set (for the love of Clix, please stop forcing Iron Man into every non-X-Men Marvel set), though, where they could really go crazy with it.
Even this fast forces:
Really? So we are getting Zemo, Citizen V, Steve Cap, Bucky Cap, Isaiah Bradley Cap, and then either Sam Cap or some other version of Bucky?
Well, no.
So nothing 'representing the lineage of Citizen V' other than Citizen V himself, but we do get a Hawkeye and Iron Man that have nothing to do with the lineage of Cap or Citizen V other than sharing some MCU movies with them (and by 'them' in this case I mean Zemo, though this Citizen V could be someone else, but I wouldn't bet on that).
I don't hate Hawkeye or Iron Man.
I do hate that the MCU is wagging the dog at Marvel and in most Heroclix sets.
Anyone betting that Thor won't be in the set? Danvers in some form? Black Widow will almost certainly be here. We already have a Hulk confirmed, because we all know that Hulk was a major supporting character in so many Captain America comics.
It's okay to give these guys a set off, Marvel.
Cap, Bucky, Black Widow, Falcon, and Hawkeye could be the MCU representatives here and let the others take a rest.
And yeah, I realize that it's "Captain America and the Avengers", but it seems like they could add "and the Avengers" to pretty much every set at this point just to throw more of the same characters at us.
"Black Panther and the Avengers". "Cap and the Avengers". "Iron Man and the Avengers". "Spider-Man and the Avengers". The Fantastic Four and the Avengers". "The X-Men and the Avengers".
It's just another way to make just another Avengers set, throwing the 10,000th version of Iron Man and the 5,000th Hulk and Thor at us while ignoring a lot of other characters that appeared in these character's comics over the years.
Could you text me what info you have on the ff starter dials most importantly the silver surfer. Ty
Yeah but we've always gotten them as solos. We haven't ever gotten them duod. But I can't help that you don't like them, so that's a no-sell for you
That's where I am.
I am not a huge duos (or trios, or...) fan, but if they haven't been done that way before, why not?
It frees up space in a set for some other character(s) and maybe, just maybe, it will be a brand new character to Clix, one that has been long absent, or even one that is a favorite of a person that hates duos that they wouldn't have gotten otherwise.
Not to mention offering up a dial that presents the two in a way that neither would be presented with a singles dial.
Rather than getting yet more singles versions of the MCU characters, pairing them up at least gives us something different.
Give me Cap & Iron Man rather than yet another single of either.
Give me a Widow & Hawkeye rather than yet another single of either.
Give me a Hulk & Thor rather than yet another single of either.
Heck, it's Cap's set... Give me Cap & Iron Man, Cap & Hawkeye, Cap & Widow, Cap & Hulk, and Cap & Thor and let not a single version of any of those other characters take up a slot in these boosters.
Maybe even throw in a Cap & Winter Soldier and a Cap & Panther.
I am not a huge duos (or trios, or...) fan, but if they haven't been done that way before, why not?
It frees up space in a set for some other character(s) and maybe, just maybe, it will be a brand new character to Clix, one that has been long absent, or even one that is a favorite of a person that hates duos that they wouldn't have gotten otherwise.
Not to mention offering up a dial that presents the two in a way that neither would be presented with a singles dial.
Rather than getting yet more singles versions of the MCU characters, pairing them up at least gives us something different.
Give me Cap & Iron Man rather than yet another single of either.
Give me a Widow & Hawkeye rather than yet another single of either.
Give me a Hulk & Thor rather than yet another single of either.
Heck, it's Cap's set... Give me Cap & Iron Man, Cap & Hawkeye, Cap & Widow, Cap & Hulk, and Cap & Thor and let not a single version of any of those other characters take up a slot in these boosters.
Maybe even throw in a Cap & Winter Soldier and a Cap & Panther.
Let all those duos be the SR's like in that one set. Cheapest set ever for me I bet. LOL.
The thing is if they do duo figures, there are those who will want the split/merge mechanic so this could save or "waste" slots.
I mean I'm with you on this but I can see the can of worms being opened.
I am not a huge duos (or trios, or...) fan, but if they haven't been done that way before, why not?
It frees up space in a set for some other character(s) and maybe, just maybe, it will be a brand new character to Clix, one that has been long absent, or even one that is a favorite of a person that hates duos that they wouldn't have gotten otherwise.
Not to mention offering up a dial that presents the two in a way that neither would be presented with a singles dial.
Rather than getting yet more singles versions of the MCU characters, pairing them up at least gives us something different.
Give me Cap & Iron Man rather than yet another single of either.
Give me a Widow & Hawkeye rather than yet another single of either.
Give me a Hulk & Thor rather than yet another single of either.
Heck, it's Cap's set... Give me Cap & Iron Man, Cap & Hawkeye, Cap & Widow, Cap & Hulk, and Cap & Thor and let not a single version of any of those other characters take up a slot in these boosters.
Maybe even throw in a Cap & Winter Soldier and a Cap & Panther.
Nah, I'm not big on Hulk with anybody. He shouldn't need any back up. The Hulk today (or in the MCU) is so much different from the REAL Hulk of the past (and soooo much weaker too), I'm talking the 60s and 70s Hulk. He doesn't need any back up and should be to handle just about anything that comes his way.
Give me my 300+ point Immortal Hulk with a natural "7" damage and make me proud Wizkids!!!!
CAAV058 Immortal Hulk is here. There is no stopping him. For he will rise again and crush your bones. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Nah, I'm not big on Hulk with anybody. He shouldn't need any back up. The Hulk today (or in the MCU) is so much different from the REAL Hulk of the past (and soooo much weaker too), I'm talking the 60s and 70s Hulk. He doesn't need any back up and should be to handle just about anything that comes his way.
Give me my 300+ point Immortal Hulk with a natural "7" damage and make me proud Wizkids!!!!
In the 70's Hulk would fight Thing or Thor or Abomination or even Rhino and it would be a fight.
The entire "madder Hulk gets, stronger Hulk gets" got silly with that being the ultimate end to most every story in his comic (Hulk gets in a fight, things start going bad, Hulk gets really mad and beats up the opponent), and he was a one-note character, but don't try and pass him off as being powered down today.
Now they push the immortal stuff and 'blow Banner's head clean off with an atomic destructo-beam and he will still manage to Hulk out and grow his head right back in the process'.
Really makes me miss the one-note 'madder Hulk gets, stronger Hulk gets' silliness.
At least then someone like Abomination or Rhino could at least start a fight with him. Now it seems that he would backhand them in the second panel and spend the rest of the issue standing over their corpse.
Oh, and maybe you missed this, but nobody cares about whether or not Hulk would 'need' any back-up.
Wizkids cares about the MCU. Marvel cares about the MCU.
It may have escaped your notice but those are all MCU pairings.
Sure, this is a comic set, not an MCU set, but we already know that Iron Man is getting multiple slots in the set, that Hulk is in there, that Hawkeye is in there. Black Widow may be verified as well and that would leave only Thor out of the mix right now.
I am tired of yet another Hawkeye, yet another (and another, and another) Iron Man, yet another Captain America.
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Let all those duos be the SR's like in that one set. Cheapest set ever for me I bet. LOL.
The thing is if they do duo figures, there are those who will want the split/merge mechanic so this could save or "waste" slots.
I mean I'm with you on this but I can see the can of worms being opened.
Not 'duo' like the old duo rules. Simply dials that represent a team-up dial rather than an individual hero.
If the characters could just split then how would that save space? It would take it up by forcing the inclusion of the singles versions of those same characters.
I am talking about being able to add a character like Machinesmith (or whoever doesn't make the cut) to a set by eliminating yet another slot being taken up by yet another version of a character that we have many multiple MA-legal versions of right now and have who knows how many more in the pipeline, and you are ignoring that by pretending I am talking about removing characters that did make the cut in order to accommodate splitting and merging.
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Rather than getting yet more singles versions of the MCU characters, pairing them up at least gives us something different.
Give me Cap & Iron Man rather than yet another single of either.
Give me a Widow & Hawkeye rather than yet another single of either.
Give me a Hulk & Thor rather than yet another single of either.
I do not understand how anyone could think I was talking about including singles for splitting/merging, a mechanic that is long-dead at this point.
Nah, I'm not big on Hulk with anybody. He shouldn't need any back up. The Hulk today (or in the MCU) is so much different from the REAL Hulk of the past (and soooo much weaker too), I'm talking the 60s and 70s Hulk. He doesn't need any back up and should be to handle just about anything that comes his way.
Give me my 300+ point Immortal Hulk with a natural "7" damage and make me proud Wizkids!!!!
And we've got plenty of oma hulk dials. It's not about "needing" backup. Imagine how bonkers a thor/hulk dial would be. Insane dmg, a great rivalry mechanic, last click has hulk sucker punching Thor. It'd be tons of fun. And shake things up instead of yet another oma hulk dial or yet another range-over-focused Thor dial. We've got dozens of these guys, it's ok to mix it up
I am talking about being able to add a character like Machinesmith (or whoever doesn't make the cut) to a set by eliminating yet another slot being taken up by yet another version of a character that we have many multiple MA-legal versions of right now and have who knows how many more in the pipeline, and you are ignoring that by pretending I am talking about removing characters that did make the cut in order to accommodate splitting and merging.
I do not understand how anyone could think I was talking about including singles for splitting/merging, a mechanic that is long-dead at this point.
I didn't ignore anything. I got your point. I simply stated that there are those who would then want the individual figures for a split/merge. Clearly you are not in that camp. It's not all about you all the time.
Edit - This isn't the first time I agreed with you and you took it as if I was arguing with you. The part you quoted even said I'm with you on what you said. I really don't get it but whatever.
And we've got plenty of oma hulk dials. It's not about "needing" backup. Imagine how bonkers a thor/hulk dial would be. Insane dmg, a great rivalry mechanic, last click has hulk sucker punching Thor. It'd be tons of fun. And shake things up instead of yet another oma hulk dial or yet another range-over-focused Thor dial. We've got dozens of these guys, it's ok to mix it up
Hahaha, this actually got me thinking. Wouldn't it be great if it was like the Dr. Doom and Kang duo where they come to a stop click and betray each other (called Inevitable Betrayal) and you have to choose either Doom or Kang as a stand alone? The Hulk and Thor could start fighting each other (called Inevitable Slugfest) and you choose the winner of that fight and then a stand alone Hulk or Thor emerges.
It could have an insane point cost with insane damage potential and such. I'm taking multiple 7 natural damage. But the drawback is once they fight, you have a single character that you paid a ton for.
I like this. Maybe I'll make a custom based on the Doom /Kang figure, just much more insane.
CAAV058 Immortal Hulk is here. There is no stopping him. For he will rise again and crush your bones. Be afraid. Be very afraid.