Yeah, but I never claimed to invalidate all of what he was saying, just the parts that aren't true. My statement only validates that I'm hard to kill and I agree with that part. Quite honestly, your play thus far today didn't strike me as all that scummy and even with this, throwing in with someone to save your own ass won't tell us much, but consider what SkullB has done today.

He was viewing the thread for hours and didn't post any sort of pressure. Maybe he left a window open, I can't say. When RP comes and votes, all of a sudden SkullB has info? I think specifically that RP voting for you got him paying attention. Why all of a sudden? If you've got info, lead with it, even disguise it as random pressure. It's worked well for the town all game. Don't wait until there's another train just to derail it.

Furthermore, let's suppose he targets me and gets a scum reading. Then he comes out and says "oh by the way, he's scum and I think he can't be NKed." Why not just accuse me straight up? For emphasis? Trying to derail? Why is he trying so hard to derail from you? It really doesn't add up.

My scenario makes a lot of sense. Ya'll are content to sit back and let people do the dirty work, but pressure is dangerous. It's dangerous because the "he said, she said" angle is amplified due to us not being able to claim. So when RP pressures, SkullB puts your pre-arranged plan of "pressure so and so" into motion. I'm a fair choice. THis hasn't been my best game. I've been too concerned with staying alive to gather much info. Plus I believe you've tried to kill me so it's a bonus if neither of you get lynched and if I get lynched. But with what I do know (I'm not scum), my theory makes the most sense of any offered so far.

Neither of those two have posted, and the player list is largely irrelevant. That's not a good enough reason in all likelihood.

I have a reason for voting for you, but that reason wasn't as important as the conversation (theoretically, at least) generated. And it certainly made SB47 very interesting as a result, so I'd consider that progress.

Confirming SB's information doesn't confirm anything about SB. In fact, it implies SB has a kill power, which seems to make SB even more noteworthy at this point in the game.

These protections you've been taking liberal use of, do they extend to the day phase?

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That information is...privileged. I will reminder you of gray area but also stress that even gray areas have limits.

Being that I know who Rokk is (90% sure), I can confirm that there is more going on with the player list then you're giving credit for.

That statement doesn't make much sense. Confirmation, of at least part of SB's information, proves that he is telling the truth about at least part of what he's saying. So, if part of what he's saying is true, then it's fair to assume that the rest might be true as well.

You are correct that it does imply that SB has a kill power. It also implies that he could be some sort of power-cop or found this information by other means. With the rules of the game, as they are. Their are creative ways to utilize your powers to gather information.

When Rokk posts, he's not worth voting for. Until then, he's just as much of a distraction technique as Stan was.

The only things that IR has verified of SB's info is that SB has been trying to NK IR. Why that verifies anything about SB beyond him having a NK power is beyond me. Otherwise, SBs info stands on its own.

The hard to kill part is interesting. For the remaining servants, none of them are known for their defensive play. Berserker is insane, Rider loves to fight, Saber is off fighting Berserker, as per the write up, and Gilgamesh is off doing Gilgamesh things.

That brings us to the master category... who do we have left.
Kiritsugu - Mage killer, offensive
Waver - Wuss. Non entity
Tohsaka - Gem Magic - uses it defend his mansion
Kotomine - Master (Assassin) - he killed someone in the write up, so he's not on the defensive right now.
Kayneth - Had this weird Silver thing that protected him during his fight with Kiritsugu. Not saying it worked very well, but it happens.

Going strictly by source material, and you using defensive powers. You are either Kayneth or Tohsaka. Personal opinion, I think Kayneth is worse then Tohsaka, but Tohsaka has to deal with Gilgamesh. So that's a whole nother discussion.

Completely out of character here, but meta play like this is BS. I know for a fact that I, and others, leave windows open all the time. And, frankly it's offputting to use that to base an accusation on. I'm not going off on you for it, as this was started by RP. But, I am, in fact throwing shade in his direction for it.

In all honesty, this is a SB question that I have no answer for. I would hazard a guess that maybe he wanted to see some conversation before posting. No idea.

There isn't much derailing going on here, just conversation. Which is good. I'm not really sure what the actual point of you not being able to be NK'd really brings to the conversation, aside from me using that to parse your identity. Personally, it would be a lot easier for SB to just say "IR is ____" and go from there.

I think their are more holes in your scenario then you are willing to admit. Especially the letting others do the dirty work part... I put myself out their by volunteering correct information on Caster that was proven to be correct.

Frankly, the simplest solution here is exactly what SB said. He had a window open, and posted his info when he felt like it. Whether or not, this was the correct manner to do it, is up for debate.

So you have information on Rokk on why he's not posting. That seems like pretty useful information. I mean, at this point, I can guess who you are.

The only thing that IR has verified is that he has defensive powers. Not that SB tried to NK him. He's been accusing me of that.

The only thing that we can tell about SB's power set is that he had a way to determine that IR could not be killed at night. And I don't know about you, but we would have probably seen a failed NK in the write up

I don't have information about Rokk. He hasn't posted so there's little way to get a read on him. And if based on that, I don't think you know who I am.

Fair enough on the failed kill writeup and SB vs IR known info.

Depending on what you were trying to do to me, uh, yep.

I think a lot of Darkstone's assessment has some accuracy to it. That doesn't mean he isn't scum, but at least he is playing the game.

Gfish I'm assuming has a post restriction. I don't know who it would fit except perhaps Berzerker, who didn't really talk except in screams.

Funny you would say this. Not funny "ha-ha", funny "man, that's just more ammunition for Darkstone to be lynched".

vote The Darkstone

meh

Seriously, I'm in the middle of a re-watch of fate/zero.

For the most part, tohsaka ain't really a bad guy. He just gets hilariously betrayed by Gilgamesh and kotomine.

Kayneth is a dick, who belligerently believes in his true blood status.

I mean, their is probably a mafia of tohsaka, kotomine, assassin, and Gilgamesh but from a strict storyline perspective, I feel bad for tohsaka.

I'm glad you understood what he was saying because I sure didn't. Not knowing source material and really not wanting to watch animated shows is a disadvantage I guess.


One possibility I haven't really considered is that SkullB and Darkstone are not in cahoots at all but SkullB is attempting to tie himself to Darkstone since Darkstone did give us cult. Now, it was cult so that doesn't let him off the hook, but it does by nature cast him in a positive light. However, RP is seeming to indicate that his pressure is more than random. I thought it was random initially.

Is there anyone we haven't heard from yet that is on the current player list?