What deal SD? Our deal? Cause no, it hasnt. Regardless of what you say, your image has been tarnished, and your "word", means little anymore. I am not gonna stress about it, because as with others, I will never see my card. We both know the truth about it. End of story. I just hope you can redeem yourself, and turn over a new leaf and become the trader a lot of us knew, although not always liked, but at least trusted long ago. Lates, Chris

DMD-I'm glad you are lucky enough to not had mail lost ever. Unfortunately it does happen. I've had it happen to me a couple times and not just from trades from other things as well like magazines I subscribed to. Did you send with confirmation? I never used to, but now I will from now on after this whole mess with CyberSerpent. Truth is not every person is perfectly honest and may just steal. Getting lost doesn't mean it goes to a different address necessarily, sometimes people have sticky fingers. Although it can go to a different address. My mother had to actually deliver a Christmas card to an address because the mailman kept delivering it to our house. It was out of lazyness, because my mother underlined the address which wasn't anything near our address, so yes they got it 2 1/2 weeks late. Now like I said, I haven't traded with her, but she is still here and wouldn't be if she was such a blatant ripper.

Suggestion to all people who trade on realms, Go elsewhere to trade. For example P0J0. P0J0 has mods, in addition to iTrader. I have been ripped a few times on P0J0, but that happens, but with no mods or iTrader, and going only off of other users trust this site is a mess to trade on. Theres only a handful of people I am willing to send first on this site because of all this dishonsty. Members that have been around for a while that havent had problems I feel safe with, but new members I wouldnt trust. No offence, but if its worth a good bit, im not taking a risk on here. Most people have accounts on P0J0 as well, so Id suggest to move deals there to prevent rips as much as possible. All I want is goodfor this site, and Im only suggesting
P0J0 for everyones best intrest.


As for traders I feel I can trust the ripping part isnt directed to you. And you know who you are.

I wouldn't really suggested moving to another site, as you said you may even get ripped there. Reprocusions or not, you still would lose your cards.

I haven't been ripped since the site went down and I think it has to do with generally being really cautious. If you do some research you should be decent when trading here. The only suggestion I have is to ask them to send first if things seem shady, worst case scenario is they say no and you don't get ripped.

like yourface said, it shouldnt matter what site u go on to trade because there will be some douchebag to rip someone off.

And not to jump on anyones bandwagon or anything, but i would have to agree with DMD about u SD. Now, im not bashing you or anything, because the one trade we did have was good and you sent with time. But as i look at ur trade thread and auctions, you offer little to nothing for high end cards, Thats really unfair. Those secrets are somewhere non playable. Then u add *star lots* to get more attention. But ummmmmm yea my little two cents

Yes the repercussions are the same, but its a little easier to get an idea of who is legit and who isnt compared to realms.

whats with this witch hunt going on gosh you guys got ripped by cyberserpent not sd give her a break i know she may of had a shady past but that was took care of. i know this site has problems but you should be more careful with how you trade thats why we have the ref system if you have more they send first if not you do its that simple and if your worried about getting ripped then i suggest you shouldn't do online trading. i mean i had to screwed up trades so far one by dmd and the other by sd but they both are taking care of it so just get a grip gosh and stop with the witch hunt already dang

We dont need commentary from the peanut gallery. We simply are providing online accountability given the ref system is faulty. Continue to trade cautiously and happily. In the meantime let the veterans handle this.

lol thats funny cause the vets got ripped. not the newbs

ok i know a lot alot of ppl have had mis understandings here im sure almost 90 percent of you traders have , so now back on topic what is being done about cyber ?

Everyone goes through it. It will happen to anybody who trades online. It is most unfortunate when good traders go bad because they think there is no online accountability.

true that so like sd said whats going to be done about cyber has anyone filed fraud yet? and if he comes back as another account how are we gona beable to prevent this are we able to put up his addy or somthing that way people can be one the look out?

Well if suggestions are taken I ll drop one.

Taking Refs from other sites such as P0j0 or E bay seeing as the iTrader in here doesnt work.

that should help somehow, however respectable older realm traders ( 60+ Trades ) can use thier own score from here )

its an idea, but it should help in situations like this, as you may know Cyber Serpent said he had 70+ Refs, reason why I sent first...

but thats impossible cause he was only one here a couple of months. i was on here a few months before him and i only got 20 refs and thats was with me trying to trade alot of people to boost my refs

Actually he has been a member for more than a year..

I think the topic of cyberserpent is completely done. There is absolutely no reason to continue a long discussion when nothing will change.

I suggest we move on, and use this thread for ongoing suspicions instead of past events.