ok, I must have remembered the stats wrong, and didnt know about the evevated terrain thing.

perhaps 3 Shiros with IT is the way to go?

re-engineered laser will not reduce dropship armour. it cannot be bypassed in any way.

Unless the envoy running the event specifically says so, Reengineered laser cuts through the armor like hot knife through butter.

The dropship ignores Armour Piercing. Reengineered Laser is not AP, even if it provides basically the same ability.

Though I would assume (since it must be an unrestricted to support the point cost of the ship) the envoy might just decide to group reengineered laser and AP together as SE's that the Dropship ignores.

But the under 600 point base I posted does not use Reengineered Laser anyway.

While it's early to speculate, and too late to change anything, the only unit I really hope to see in the next set is a JF cap3 transport which can rival the merc zahn for our tank drops.

Is there anything else we really need???

A JF Heavy.

No, seriously. That's _it_. JF is as close to complete as any faction in play.

We have studly infantry (EBA, GBA, SBA, Sniper Teams).

We have nasty tanks (Kelswa, Glory, Mars, Sekhmet).

We have arty (god do we have arty: Sniper, Hadur, Long Tom, TTL, SM2).

We have anti-arty (Shamash).

We have a solid non-unique pilot (JF Star Commander).

We have good lights (Blade, Jaguar)

We have good mediums (Goshawk, need I say more?).

We have good assaults (Black Rose is insane, the Zeus is merely very very good).

Our unique pilot has two rides (many faction leaders are jammed into one mech due to requirements; Hazen can pilot Black Rose or the Zeus).

We have unique beatsticks (Black Rose).

We have non-unique beatsticks (Goshawk and Zeus).

Sure, some things could be better (like the Shamash) but our arty is god-like (seriously, it takes effort to miss with a Sniper or Hadur and the TTLs aren't too bad either) and the Goshawk/Black Rose bump of Firepower was great.

As you note, the only thing we miss is a 3 Cap and a JF heavy for using all that great Heavy gear (heavies are currently better than assaults because of that). A JF Jade Hawk or Loki would rule (Thors blow :)) but even then we can take the GS Jade Hawks.

What's not to love?

Non unique Gyrfalcons
Non unique Eyrie

A battlemaster would be cool :grin: but other then the 2 I listed I agree with Highdancer we need heavy's, Jade Hawks would definatly be a nice addition to our forces. :grin:

Tirrex

I wouldn't be surprised if JF is either left out of annihilation, or recieves only a token showing.

and no Cap3 transport, ever, will rival the merc Zahn. they have made that mistake too much already - expect cap3's to be faction-specific, expensive and 8" move or less - kinda like the R10.

For JF heavies just use Blitz. Its cheap enough to get one to keep in wolf's dragoons colours, and one to paint up Jade Falcon.

Job done ;)

Yes, Aside from a Cap 3 transport, and a non heavy(aside from the lackluster Ursa), JF has an excellent selection of units.

The Ursas are not that bad. I may not field them but at least I feel that the JF Ursa is still one of the better Ursas. Under hindering or jungle, you can get a 23 or 24 defense mech with decoy---and that decoy isn't from a card but built into the dial.

In contrast I find the Eyries and Gyrs, which were okay when F Prey set was introduced, to be unplayable in today's kill environment. They have a hard time even when facing light mechs with high attack values.

I would expect something a bit more akin to the DF R10 which is a bit quicker than the others. The JF version (extrapolating here) would have a high attack, low range and possibly a somewhat inferior DV (though not so much lately). Say, 2 damage, 10 move, 9 attack, 19 or 20 DV. The problem with the Merc Zahn isn't just the speed (which isn't bad at all) but the Evade.

As for the heavies, sure there are GSes to use, but it'd be nice to get a faction specific one. Say, the pipedream JF heavy...

Jade Hawk, 3 damage melee, 4 damage 2/14 ballistic, 8 move JJ, 10 attack, 21 DV. Or the pipedream Loki: 3 damage 0/8 ballistic, 5 damage 0/14 energy, 8 move JJ, 10 attack, 21 DV. :)

OK, if we get a Jade Hawk like that, I'd be happy! Even over a non gyr falcon.
The Loki would be cool as well, but they never had jump jets.
Heres hoping!

Well, they didn't start with JJs. IIRC, you could add jump jets to omnis just fine (but goodness knows I'm not an expert there). My personal Loki build is 2 ER LL, 2 ER ML, 2 LRM 15s with Jump Jets, Targeting Computer and Artemis IV. Oh, and lots of heat sinks. :)

Well in either case, I'd love to see a decent jump capable ranged combat mech platform that could thrive in the post AOD environment. In other words something that does more than 3 damage, has more than a 10 inch range and more than a 19 defense.

If there is anything currently lacking in the JF army its a post AOD non mech that can provide decent firesupport for the close assault mob we current have.

14 inch range? Yikes!

I'd be happy with an 8 inch range, so that the big range could go to a Gyrfalcon :cheeky:

To me, the JHK will always be about getting in close and ripping the jibblets out of things... :devious:

This mech and pilot will never, ever see the light of day, but I like it anyway.

Mech: Typhoon
Jade Hawk

3 Melee, 4 Ballistic 1 target 0/8, 8 move, 10 AV, 21 DV.

Pilot: Star Captain Jason Mattlov
+1/+2/+1.
Special Ability: Variable ATM Loadout.
When this mech makes a ranged combat attack, it may halve the ballistic damage and double the range or halve the range and double the damage.

One mech we are missing that would be nice to have is an assault class quad

we already have enough to abuse MDFA to no end i say they do something that will help us own even more in hindering to help out enhanced imaging.

and yes i know there is a gear card for EI where you dont have to roll for it

its for mediums incase someone didnt know