A friend and I were dicussing an idea for a theme team involving Ares similar to what you suggested:

Gods and Demigods

Ares U
Thor U
Enchantress U
Loki U
Hercules V
Wonder Woman U

Which adds up to 901, so for a 1000 point game you still have room for some feats. Could be fun to try at one of the bigger point games.

Cheapest TK is R Mandroid... but then again he's retired.

I played a series of C-note Supes vs Ares. Supes owns him due to RS and HSS. Mobility is key. I agree that if you do play him, go for base to base contact as soon as possible. I'd also point out that Ares by himself is probably more dangerous than with help. I played in a 450 point sealed where I beat an Ares team by eliminating his support and running away from the big man. If you don't come to him, he'll never catch you.

Wow, the Ares + Flash is pretty cool.

Nice review AZS, the big man is tough in a low point game.

Cheapest TK in the game is Mandroid Armour that costs 28 pts not Jean Grey.

Ares is a good fig. that is what THANOS should be comparable too! Good review

Isn't V Circe 99 points? And I would think that she fits the theme better than any Wonder Woman.

azs considers only Restricted figs (aka "no retired figs") for his supremely great reviews. (No sarcasm. They really are great!!)

Actually, I believe the cheapest TK in the game is actually R Shade, who has it on his fourth click and is only 27 points (and isn't retired!). His utility as a TK-er is debatable though, for the extra point he saves you compared to R Mandroid Armor, and he's still two points too pricey to fit with Ares on a 300-point team.

Has anyone tried In Contact With Oracle on Ares and Mary Jane? The little lady looks better on Ares' arm than Flash, and she wildcards his Mystic TA too...!

Excellent review as always azs. The above points are valid really for any figure without a "move and attack" power, whom you intend to use as a primary attacker. I'm tired of having to chuck a character simply because they don't have a "move and attack" power (see: Mongul). It seems like if a figure doesn't not possess a MaA power they are relagated to a support role (TK, Prob, Outwit or Support) or they must have Stealth + Willpower.

I hate it ... a quick review of all regional top 4's will show a common requirement:

Jean Grey / Johnny Alpha / TK

or

Hypersonic Speed (but even HSS most often must include TK to compete with other HSS teams)

I made a double barrier Thor team that ended up winning the Atlanta regional just to prove you could win without TK but that was the exception to the rule.

When will Wizkids admit that giving every figure a move and attack option is the right call ... Heroclix 2.0 (sigh)

Again great review !

Well, I think that's a broad generalization. As it's been said, Ares with Fortitude finished top 4 at Niles and IIRC Superfro's team was completely devoid of any HSS or TK.

Thanks NedL. I think its a better generalization to say that your whole team needs Mobility, and not just your lead attacker. Sure some of the best figures have RS or HSS, but so do some real stinkers, so the power doesn't make the figure so much as the figure makes the power.

U Despero still ranking in the top 10 (give or take) is testament to a good figure with no mobility. V Havok also shines (albeit in a completely different category) for his pure power.

I do agree that RS and HSS make most figs better, and more tournament worthy, but I'm not quite ready to throw in the towel and say that only figs with their own mobility powers can front a team.

For Ares specifically, I think its his cost that makes the lack of mobility so much of a detriment. If he were fewer points you could afford to play him with TK and barrier and probably pull it off.

Indeed it is broad - myself made a winning team without TK (though it had RS). Broad generalization was what lead to NAAT and FCCF there was the occasional stealth team that would win versus Wasp\Bullseye\Firelord. I just saw Jean on 80% of the 300 point teams fielded. Seems to me to be a design flaw along the lines of the power 9 in Magic. Required pieces for competitive play. Kind of like 80% of all pre-NAAT teams had a flyer paired with each attacker ? Not whining too bad, I had a blast playing. I'd just love to see a look at the rules as they stand and maybe see some changes when DC Icons releases.

Agreed, Havok is the new Bullseye. But he still can't do *anything* by himself. He needs to be carried or be TK'ed. Same with Despero, super efficient for his cost, versitile, durable, but still will never be fielded on a competitive team w/o TK or a Flyer + probably Barrier. And you are absolutely astute in pointing out the Ares point cost leaves no room for any of the required support needed to field a competitive Heroclix team.

Poor guy ...