I agree she's very useful, but if she flys it will make a huge difference.
Obviously, she will be a major target if she is on your team, so if she can fly, then she can go into soaring mode, and make it even more difficult to get to her. Plus, the rules allow you to throw out barriers from soaring mode, which is a nice strategy for using her.

Flyers have so many advantages it's not even funny:
- Can carry a grounded fig.
- Can always make ranged attacks even if based.
- Ignore characters during movement
- Don't get hurt from being knocked off a roof.
- Immune to EARTHQUAKE
- Has soaring mode option

I knew the feeling Wednesday. I don't think I've ever been that excited to pull someone besides Thor. I pretty much had to trade to get anyone else I strongly wanted, which is cool, but not quite that same incontinent vibe.

i whould just like to point out the alt members we can now use ant man with thunderbolts gives us a 20 def for all. Since the FF card does not say unmodified with incontact with oracle we can bring it up to a twenty one the puck vesion of invisble women can use defend to give the defence to wolverine mr. fixit or ghostrider V powerman can wildcard the FF team we can also up grade she hulk to her vet due to thunderbolts and as always choose the spidey we wish to play. This means that the ff now has a lot more depth with a very good defencie value. When they are hit they can copy alicia masters 10 defence makeing them almost impossible not to heal. Add to this briliant tactition on mr. fantastic you have a very strong force. The only major things mising are teliknesis and probility control

Relkin,

Although I don't know that it has been officialized, the Thunderbolts feat can not assign a feat team ability to the Avengers (no super-sharing of defense and the card is supposed to read "unmodified defense value". However, feel free to make Ant Man a Defender or JSAer and then share some 20 defense love.

Of course, you can also do that with Querl Dox. (QD mimics F4 team ability to get a 19 defense and uses defend on anyone nearby.)

Maybe a rules guru might know for sure, but I don't think hockey puck can share the 19 via Defend because Defend only shares an unmodified value...

The 19 would be a replacement number, not a modified number.

Um, who is the cheapest witha 19 defense, if it's not FF LE Sue Storm?

Another option is to have Antman T-bolt into a JSA, then have Querl carry around Antman so that he gains 20 d which can then be transfered via his Defend power into anyone else adjacent no matter what their TA is.

If you can throw on a GL person, then you can have Querl turn into a bus while it's your turn and then put up the Super Defense when it's your opponent's turn.

It's not bad of an idea, but would probably only work in a high point game. Plus it has to be unrestricted.

If you stick with restricted only, then you can do this combo:
LE Querl Dox 47
LE Sue Storm (FF) 49
BT Jarvis + Tbolts 9
F Alt FF 0

So for 105 points you got the set up for a GL Bus that can share 19 Defense to any kind of teammate. Granted it's a slow moving bus (only 6 movement) but it still can be a pain in the @ss.

I think they are referring to U Wasp from IC that has a 19 DV for 44 points. Just a 3 point difference.

well, even if you could use thunderbolts with the AFF TA, that would put U wasp to 49 points, the same as sue. kinda funny. that is a dirty tactic to pick a sue storm le and the hockey puck LE. put that on a KC supes...ouch. i really dont think this new feat should be used on wildcards and thunderbolts. it's just not right. at our local tournament. invisible woman is banned as a house rule. i never get to play with my hockey puck le. maybe now fantastic forces will change things. i like the new sue, but the hockey puck is still a cooler sculpt.

cheers

she was in one of the last packages I opened from my case

awesome piece

Nothing to add to this thread, I just wanted to express how excited I am at having a Sue Storm coming through the mail in trade. I'll certainly be more likely to use her than I would be to use the Nimrod I traded for her.

Just a little not...The great thing about that late dial ESD is if you have the ALT FF TA feat on her and someone else on the board to use it then there is a decent enough chance that once she gets hit for a few damage that other character will have a defense of 16 or higher and then she can share their defense using ESD to increase it 2 more and then another if she is hindering. This goes particularly well with LE Ben Grimm who has a jumping defense...but that may be something for a later date.

Great job on the second part!

If I remember correctly you cannot give a thunderbolt the Alt FF ability because of the prerequisite that you need the FF TA in the first place. Whereas the Thunderbolt figure would have an Avengers TA before the game starts.

If I'm talking out of my ###, I probably am. I'm tired.