I just re-read that last post, and it comes off sounding more angry than I intended.

Look, strategically, perplexing up my damage would have been dumb. If I had done 4 damage to you, Pyro could have then pushed to do anything and KO'd himself. Then I would no longer have my human sheild.

If on my next turn I clear Torch and the turn after that, Poison will have finished Pyro off. If not let some of my weaker players get in there to do a KO (as Torch earns points pretty easy and having someone else get the KO would be very good).

I never would have perplexed his damage this early on in the game. I hate missing too much.

Lastly, Play by Post isn't perfect. It does require trust. In the RPSC, we don't even send the rolls to each other. We had to learn to be a community that trusts each other.

In this setting we wanted to be very competitive but still be friends. Thus we require the rolls to be sent. But there's still a degree of trust you must give.

And first and foremost, you must trust Vance and me. I go out of my way to try and earn this trust. I post my team for my next games on the thread (which most people don't) so that no one thinks I picked my team to nerf theirs specifically.

When we were drafting, I sent my draft number to a totally neutral party. Just to earn trust with you guys.

But ultimately, you still have to trust me. If you can't trust the refs, then your gonna keep having these issues.

I've never had anyone ask me to notate who I'm perplexing, but I'll do it from here on out for you.

But the bigger thing is, you should maybe give me the benefit of the doubt and if you have a question about something I'm doing, approach me with a tad bit more respectfully. Not call me a liar/cheater.

I don't lie, I fear God too much to lie.

No hard feelings from me, it's up to you though if you want to continue.

Okay, i'm not going to argue with you over something dumb. It's only for fun. But do you see where i'm coming from? Maybe i just don't trust people. I guess when you say torch attacking pyro but then in your recap you have him up close and his attacked perplexed i'll just have to believe you are being honest. But if you weren't an honest person you could change it to however you wanted. And if the map isn't working what's the hurry don't do your turn. I just thought it seemed a little shady. You've been playing for along time and i've only played 2 games but i've still said what was being perplexed when i rolled the dice. So i'll ask nicely, please do so on future attacks. The map site is still down or i would do my turn.

I dont mean to get involved but you did not alow the ultimate xmen team ability to be made cause it was not mentioned in teh dice roll, that seams the same as perplex to me in a game 1 situation

Again, it's fine. I've never had anyone ask me to add in perplex, but I can. Not a big deal.

But making a ranged attack without perplex would have been 9 vs 18 (if there was hindering) which would have been needlessly hard.

I just think there's a level where it came off very accusitive, and I feel for the amount of work I put in, plus the lengths I go to to be trust worthy, that you can give me the courtesy of saying the same thing, but with more trust.

As for the map, unfortunately, our's is not offered on another site. We'll just have to wait for Creation to come back up. If it's not up by Monday, I guess I'll ask Vance what he thinks the best thing to do is.

Actually, that's not true. We didn't allow that because the player, specifically notated that he was declaring the Ult X-men power after the attack. Not that he didn't put it in the dice roll, but the player went out of the way to notate that he was doing it after.

well since Fel got in his 2 cents I guess I will to since, as usual I'm bored. PLus I've played both of you guys. You have both been very stand up and followed the rolls. you both called yourselves out on mistakes you made during the games we played, (as well as called me on my numerous ones) as such I don;t think this needs to be a big deal.

I think Doobie's request to have the Perplex in the attack roll is justifyable. I'm not saying Its the norm and turtle broke a code as I don't see it as being the usual thing everyone does, but its a fair enough request. However you did come off rather like a jerk doob, and I know your not you were just upset but theres no reason to get angry, espicially at someone who went out of his way to set this thing up for us. I mess with turtle but its all in fun, except when he gives me bad BFC . You could have simply said something along the lines of "Hey, in the future, would you mind putting your perplex in the dice roller just so I am clear on what I am dealing with" or something of the sort.

As for the Ultimate X thing, he typed out "I missed, so I'll use Ult X to make the attack hit" not in those words, but close enough. Thats just a tad bit different than not indicating perplex in a dice roll.

ohh i see my mistake

ohh and controversy and drama you would think its sweeps week

hehehe

I certainly don't want to make this a bigger issue then it is. ALthough I do appreciate that we have the ability to have a calm conversation where anyone can input. I like that about our commuity

I will notate from here on out when I'm using perplex.

I think the word "jerk" is a little strong though

Let's just move on from this, so we can still all be friends.

Really this situation is none of my business, but it makes me think. I've been simply using the dice roller for the number it generates and adding nothing more than who attacked who, etc. Everything else I put in my post. I guess I never thought about how one could cheat in the contrast of the roll/post. However, if Perplex is required stated in the roll, that seems burdensom to me. I mean, if perplex is required, where is the line drawn? There are countless modifiers that could then so be required -- hindering, Ultimate X-men, Enhancement, Hydra team, etc. I mean, that level of detail inclusion in the roll does NOT appeal to me.

I guess I just prefer to trust the other guy in this. If they wanna cheat like that, well then, uh okay. I'm playing a theme team anyway (though I play it the best I am able, and if you beat me, it won't be because I didn't try to win), and this is all about the fun for me.

I sincerely hope I'm not gonna be required to include such detailed info in my rolls.

Okay, sorry for all ### b.s. Back to ### game.

Brotherhood Turn 4

Deathbird running shot on Torch, carrying Klaw. Deathbird at N13, Klaw at M14.
10 on an 18 need an 8. 2,1=3 Miss

Pyro and Magneto clear.

Your turn.


### Brotherhood (home)

R Magneto (7/7) S13 AST=1
U Deathbird (7/7) N13@
E Pyro (2/5) X13 J13 SA=1 KO=1
R Klaw (7/7) X12 M14
R Iron Fist* (6/6) T14
* w/ Haymaker

vs

Ultimate Fantastic Four (visitor)

R Ult Invisible Woman (5/5) I-5
R Ult ### Thing (8/8) H-6@ w/HO
R Ult Mr. Fantastic (6/6) A-6
E Ult Human Torch (6/6) I-14@
R Johnny Alpha (5/5) I-6@

R Sheild Medic KO

Human Torch SA [1]
Johnny Alpha AST [1]
Mr. Fantastic AST [1]

Map: IAP 1

HO: N13, O13
LO: N12, K-10 G-14

BFC: Rally

Whenever ### character with ### highest point value remaining on your force is eliminated, remove one action token from all characters on your force, as applicable, and then remove ### eliminated character from ### game.

Pyro takes 1 clix due to poison.

Reed will stretch over to H-14

Invisible Woman will put a barrier in J-5, J-6, I-7 H-7

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Brotherhood (home)

R Magneto (7/7) S13 AST=1
U Deathbird (7/7) N13@
E Pyro (1/5) X13 J13 SA=1 KO=1
R Klaw (7/7) X12 M14
R Iron Fist* (6/6) T14
* w/ Haymaker

vs

Ultimate Fantastic Four (visitor)

R Ult Invisible Woman (5/5) I-5@
R Ult Thing (8/8) H-6 w/HO
R Ult Mr. Fantastic (6/6) H-14@
E Ult Human Torch (6/6) I-14
R Johnny Alpha (5/5) I-6

R Sheild Medic KO

Human Torch SA [1]
Johnny Alpha AST [1]
Mr. Fantastic AST [1]

Map: IAP 1

Barrier: J-5, J-6, I-7 H-7

HO: N13, O13
LO: N12, K-10 G-14

BFC: Rally

Whenever ### character with ### highest point value remaining on your force is eliminated, remove one action token from all characters on your force, as applicable, and then remove ### eliminated character from ### game.

Brotherhood Turn 5

Magneto rolls for leadership, 1 didn't get it.

Pyro tries to break away (free move), 3 didn't get it.

Klaw attacking Human Torch with RCE.
9 on an 18 need a 9. 2,3=5 Miss

Magneto moves (free move) carrying Iron Fist. Magneto lands in N12, drops Iron Fist at O12.



Brotherhood (home)

R Magneto (7/7) N12@ AST=1
U Deathbird (7/7) N13
E Pyro (1/5) X13 J13@ SA=1 KO=1
R Klaw (7/7) X12 M14@
R Iron Fist* (6/6) O12
* w/ Haymaker

vs

Ultimate Fantastic Four (visitor)

R Ult Invisible Woman (5/5) I-5@
R Ult Thing (8/8) H-6 w/HO
R Ult Mr. Fantastic (6/6) H-14@
E Ult Human Torch (6/6) I-14
R Johnny Alpha (5/5) I-6

R Sheild Medic KO

Human Torch SA [1]
Johnny Alpha AST [1]
Mr. Fantastic AST [1]

Map: IAP 1

Barrier: J-5, J-6, I-7 H-7

HO: N13, O13
LO: N12, K-10 G-14

BFC: Rally

Whenever ### character with ### highest point value remaining on your force is eliminated, remove one action token from all characters on your force, as applicable, and then remove ### eliminated character from ### game.

Poison takes effect again and Pyro is KOed.

1 KO to Human Torch

I'll perplex up Thing's attack with Reed.

Then I'll TK him with Johnny Alpha to M-11 and attack Magnedo. Av9(+1 for perplex) vs dv16, need a 6, roll is 1+1 for 2. Crit miss. Take 1 clix and loose the object. (My first injury )

Human Torch will try to hit Klaw and/or Deathbird with a run shot to L-13 carrying Reed to M-12. Av9 vs dv16 for Klaw and dv17 (+2 for Energy Sheild, +1 for hindering) for Deathbird, need a 7 for Klaw and a 11 for both, roll is 3+6 for 9. I'll put all 3 clix on Klaw as is my only option

1 SA to Torch

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Brotherhood (home)

R Magneto (7/7) N12@ AST=1
U Deathbird (7/7) N13
E Pyro KOed! SA=1 KO=1
R Klaw (4/7) X12 M14@
R Iron Fist* (6/6) O12
* w/ Haymaker

vs

Ultimate Fantastic Four (visitor)

R Ult Invisible Woman (5/5) I-5
R Ult Thing (7/8) M-11@
R Ult Mr. Fantastic (6/6) M-12
E Ult Human Torch (6/6) L-13@
R Johnny Alpha (5/5) I-6@

R Sheild Medic KO

Human Torch SA [2] KO [1]
Johnny Alpha AST [1]
Mr. Fantastic AST [1]

Map: IAP 1

HO: N13, O13
LO: N12, K-10 G-14

BFC: Rally

Whenever the character with the highest point value remaining on your force is eliminated, remove one action token from all characters on your force, as applicable, and then remove the eliminated character from the game.

I just realized that when I based Klaw with the run shot, I can't shoot out of adjacency to try to hit Deathbird as well anyways. Sorry about that. One of those new changes since Icons that I sometimes forget.

But it doesn't really matter since I only hit Klaw anways. But, if you have a problem with it for some reason, let me know.

The goal was to use poison to eat away at Klaw while I tie up your charaters with Reed, but I want to be on the up and up with everything.