Can giant figures make a ranged combat attack against a based opposing figure? For example, Chemo is on his RCE clicks and is based (not two squares away but directly adjacent) by:

a grounded non-flyer like Cheetah
a grounded flyer like Red Tornado
another giant figure (or big/colossal figure) like Validus or Sentinel

Can Chemo use RCE on any of the above?

Unless stated otherwise in any of the special character rules (i.e. Double-based, Giants, Big Figs, etc), all rules are applied as normal.

In this case, since it doesn't say anything at in the rule book or errata about Giant's ranged combat when adjacent to an opponent (unlike, say Big Figures, which do have special rules), Giants are treated just like normal characters.

In other words:

No, just like normal.

Assuming only opposing fliers are adjacent, yes, just like normal.

This is actually two different questions, since Giants and Big (Colossal) Figures have different sets of special rules. Giants: no, just like normal. Big Figs: yes, since all current Big Figures are fliers.

Just follow the rules in the book. Remember that if it doesn't specifically say something is different than the usual way of doing things, it isn't different.

Cool thanks for the response. I figured it was the same as normal figures since the rulebook didn't mention it but I wanted to be sure. I just read something in another topic that confused me...

Does a giant figure HAVE to stop when he's 2 squares from an opposing figure or is he allowed to move right up next to them? I know regular figures have to stop 2 squares from a giant but I thought the giants could move directly adjacent if they wanted to (like say wanting to use Chemo's poison). I don't think I've ever played in a game against a giant figure where I made them stop 2 squares away from any standard figure.

From the Icons Rulebook, page 31:

SO, in your examples:

1) No, because both are grounded.
2) Yes, because one is a flyer and one is grounded.
3) No (I THINK) on Validus, but yes on the Sentinel, because you can always make ranged combat attacks against Big figures.

Yes, they must stop unless they have some way to ignore character bases (L/C, Phasing, Serpent Society TA, etc). And then, once stopped, they will have to roll breakaway to begin moving again on the next turn (this is why I almost always place Shake-off on my Giants... since I'll probably be breaking away a bunch anyway, might as well do some damage).

From the Icons rule book (page 30):

A giant character is adjacent to standard-sized characters (those with the damage symbol), big characters, and other giant characters when those characters are up to two squares away for movement and close combat attack purposes, regardless of the other character’s elevation or flight mode, but an elevated giant character is not adjacent to a grounded standard-sized character.

Thanks for the explination normalview, it makes sense to me now.

If you put figures into a "scale" perspective, it makes determining visability easier:

Elevated terrain: 6 feet/1 unit
Barrier: 6 feet/1 unit
Standard: 6 feet/1 unit (grounded)
Giant: 12+ feet/2 units (grounded, elevated)
Colossal: 24+ feet/3 units (grounded, hovering, soaring)

Well, whatever helps you keep it straight... however, I'd like to point out that Giants extend into soaring, as well. So you may want to modify your chart a little

now that I'm thoroughly confused.......

But I do have a question.
Imagine this scenario;

Batman is one square away from the edge of a building. Giganta is on the ground next to the building with Captain Cold beside her.
If Captain Cold creates a barrier on the row of squares on the edge of the building between Giganta and Batman does this block Line-of-Fire for Batman?


Inquiring minds want to know!

Yes. From the rule book (and earlier in the thread):

Hindering terrain, blocking terrain, and elevated terrain affect line of fire to a giant character as normal.

Barrier is blocking terrain and will block LOF to the Giant character. Batman won't be able to target Giganta.

Boy the poison thing is disappointing. I thought it would be perfect for the characeter to be able to poison two squares away, since he is radioactive. Oh well, still like him alot.

I have a quick question. None of my DC Giants collectors figs have the giant damage symbol. They all have the normal starburst thing. Are they giants or not?

Hmm... well the set is called "DC Giants"


Yes, that was a printing error. The RA has already made an announcement that they are all Giants and that an official errata will be made. In the mean time, if anyone tries to tell you they are not giants, show them the name of the set then punch them in the back of the head for being delibrately obtuse

Can a grounded Giant make a close combat action against an elevated standard character two squares away, as on the ground? Can an elevated standard character make a close combat action against a grounded giant character who's one square away? And in either case, are either considered adjacent for purposes of movement?

From the Heroclix FAQ:

Q: Is a grounded giant character adjacent to an elevated opposing character for close combat purposes? How about if the opposing character is soaring? Or if the giant character is elevated?
A: A grounded giant character is adjacent to an opposing elevated or soaring character up to two squares away, and visa versa. An elevated giant character is adjacent to an opposing soaring character up to two squares away, and visa versa. An elevated giant character is not adjacent to an opposing grounded character.