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Considering later solicits for Civil War mention a possible war with Atlantis it's almost a given that Namor will be anti-registration. Not to mention that in the New Avengers: Illuminati one-shot, he was very opposed to what they did to the Hulk (launched him into space) AND ended up trying to take Iron Man's head off.
Also it should be noted that in the cover with Namor on it, Invisible Woman is at his side. Everytime I think of Sue these days, I see her as the Harriet Tubman of Marvel. Is that wrong?
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I have to give Kaitouace points for hitting the nail on the head.
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So here I go adding to Kaitouace's sig again, but he hit the nail on the head. FOOM is very playable.
Even though his identity isn't exactly secret, he's simply too proud. And his history with Cap may count for a lot.
Thor's history with Cap didn't count for jack, why would Namor's ... ? Millar's completely ignoring how most of the characters would actually react in any of the situations they've been put into so far in order to use them in his political commentary story.
But, hey, it's Millar and he's Bendis' co-god, so what right do we have to complain, right?
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JacinB is right.
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Superman-based interactive entertainment products tend to be very bad, because an accurate Superman game would have one button labeled "Use Powers" and you would press it and win.
Thor's history with Cap didn't count for jack, why would Namor's ... ? Millar's completely ignoring how most of the characters would actually react in any of the situations they've been put into so far in order to use them in his political commentary story.
But, hey, it's Millar and he's Bendis' co-god, so what right do we have to complain, right?
Well to be fair we still have no idea what this Thor is all about. It could be that he's lost his memory thanks to Ragnarok. Or maybe Donald Blake's personality is in control and he was recruited by S.H.I.E.L.D. Or maybe it's a total fake. I was shocked Thor was pro-registration (or more realistically, anti-Cap) but I'm taking a wait-and-see attitude on this one.
Quote : Originally Posted by M_Tuttle
I have to give Kaitouace points for hitting the nail on the head.
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So here I go adding to Kaitouace's sig again, but he hit the nail on the head. FOOM is very playable.
I'm definately rooting for the Anti-reg folks. Opressive governments stealing away the rights of their people always gets to me.
As for the teams? Well, yikes, according to that list the Pro's have a whole heck of a lot of power on their side. I believe there will be a swing of at least two on the Pro side to the Anti side.
So, Thor... His return, well, it's far from in character. I'm hoping that they explain it away with him having totally lost his memory or something because Thor's always seemed more about free everything. The fact that he's not siding with Cap and Herc just seems silly to me. I also feel that Spidey, particularly in the last issue, is acting totally out of character. Spidey uses a stealth suit to cheap shot Cap? What??
In fact, I'm suprised with Thing, Invisible Woman, Ms. Marvel (due to her history with Cap) Wasp and Wonder Man all being pro-reg. It just doesn't seem right. Bah. I just hope this crossover ends well because right now, I'm not very happy with it.
Annihilation is a MUCH better crossover. READ IT!
"Come on Hulk! Where's the old boasting? The battle cries? Why aren't you bellowing about how you're 'the strongest one there is'? Could it be because... you know it's not true?"
"No. Because it's just too obvious."
-Juggernaut to Hulk
[quote=Darth Sabre]Deadpool, from what I've read of him, seems an odd choice for the Pro side. Now granted, I haven't read much, but he hardly fits the conformist type. Since Cable is on the other side, I'm left to wonder what affect that will have in their title, if any.
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I don't read much Deadpool either, but I think I saw that he joined the Pro side just because he wanted to help hunt down the anti group.
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In addition to not listing Inhumans, they haven't listed Namor and Atlantis
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I believe Namor is on the cover of CW #6, he will get involved.
Theres only one Return, and it ain't of the King, its of the Jedi.
That's the whole point of a civil war though brother against brother, fathers against son etc. If everyone was reasonable they would sit down and sort it over a cup of tea.
I'm interested that the Human Torch is not on the list.
As a lifelong Spidey fan I'm on Peter's side (imagine how surprised I was when it was announced that the Bugle's geeky photographer was actually ... pause for effect... Spiderman) and will love it when he switches to Cap's side after he finds out how machiavellian Iron Man is being. ( This is not a spoiler just my guess)
I don't think Civil War is a bad idea...but it's been so poorly executed. It's like JacinB said above, this is ghost-in-the-machine storytelling. The characters are acting in a specific way for no other reason than because the story doesn't work if they don't.
Thor being pro-reg makes perfect sense to me. He is all about honor and loyalty to a liege. I am sure that he considers the US government to be the Avenger's liege lords, since they are the governing body that they have always followed. As a warrior, Thor likely feels that the heroes should be accountable for words and deeds. Look at the recent Thor: Blood Oath miniseries--Thor travels all over the multiverse to help the Warriors Three account for their actions.
Incidently, I am anti-reg at this point. Registration and all of the benefits it offers should be a voluntary.
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I don't think Civil War is a bad idea...but it's been so poorly executed.
Hush troll, I am a huge DC fan, and I have to say that Civil War is blowing Infinite Crisis out of the water.
Hush troll, I am a huge DC fan, and I have to say that Civil War is blowing Infinite Crisis out of the water.
Nah.
First, if you call me a troll again, I shall insult your mother.
If you think I'm comparing the two - IC and CW - then you've totally missed the point. Infinite Crisis was dull and lackluster and relied too heavily on 70 years of continuity. It was, in a word, boring.
Three huge characters that are most likely going to pop up and change the tide are:
A) Magneto
B) Prof X
B) Scarlet Witch
All three are "dead" and both are mad powerful. And I believe we haven't seen hide nor hair of Wanda or Charles since HoM. Being mutants I think they are more likely to side with anti-registration. Especially Mags and Prof being that they lived through the holocaust and had to "register" then. Just my two cents though.
Thor being pro-reg makes perfect sense to me. He is all about honor and loyalty to a liege. I am sure that he considers the US government to be the Avenger's liege lords, since they are the governing body that they have always followed. As a warrior, Thor likely feels that the heroes should be accountable for words and deeds. Look at the recent Thor: Blood Oath miniseries--Thor travels all over the multiverse to help the Warriors Three account for their actions.
I don't particularly see it that way but it would make for an interesting avenue for him to switch sides. He's all for people accounting for their actions but he's being kept in the dark on the methods. Plus it's one thing to have heroes accountable for their deeds but it's another thing to have them basically at the beck and call of the U.S. government. After all he basically tried the same thing himself when he was powered with the Odinforce and brought Asgard to Earth. In the end he went back in time and undid his decision.
And when it comes down to it, Thor (the one we know) would put NO human's words over Captain America's. Especially with Hercules on Cap's side.
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I have to give Kaitouace points for hitting the nail on the head.
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So here I go adding to Kaitouace's sig again, but he hit the nail on the head. FOOM is very playable.
With Millar's writing, he tends to change the personalities of characters on his own whim. I enjoy his stuff on the Ultimate universe, because he can create his own world. But he tries to do that with 616 universe way too much. Like Venom giving up his costume to scorpion. In Civil War I see this even more. Spider-Man revealing his identity seems wrong, he kept his identity so that his loved one would not get hurt, now I think this will only make things worse. I don't like how they make Peter Look up to Tony so much, in the beginning Peter seemed like a little puppy to Tony, Peter is too much of an adult to act like that.
I think Spider man, and invisible woman will change sides.
as of now I am not enjoying this storyline so much. It seems to be such a huge story, so many books to be collected with such a small issue. I really think they can resolve it in less issues.
Three huge characters that are most likely going to pop up and change the tide are:
A) Magneto
B) Prof X
B) Scarlet Witch
All three are "dead" and both are mad powerful. And I believe we haven't seen hide nor hair of Wanda or Charles since HoM. Being mutants I think they are more likely to side with anti-registration. Especially Mags and Prof being that they lived through the holocaust and had to "register" then. Just my two cents though.
Prof. X showed up in X-Men: Deadly Genesis (decimated). He's currently on a mission in space with several other X-Men tracking down a rogue, previously unknown X-Man, Vulcan. Scarlet Witch popped up very briefly at the end of House of M but no one knows where she is now or even if she has powers. Magneto showed up during Son of M but still unclear if he even has the ability to do anything.
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I have to give Kaitouace points for hitting the nail on the head.
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So here I go adding to Kaitouace's sig again, but he hit the nail on the head. FOOM is very playable.