Ol Dut, awesome job as usual.

I gotta say though, Im very happy about seeing my main man Roy Harper on there. That PD ability as well as the 39 point Run Shot three damage, 8 range! So great.

I would think that NGN Iron Man and NGN Superman should have been a little higher, if not only because they provide new players with such a great starting point and older players with more great figs. Each is very useful, especially the first Supes with Bat Team.

I'll post more later, but here are my first impressions:

1) I am pleased with your rational for your choices, even though I'm not in full agreement.

2) I'm surprised at the inclusion of soo many lower cost figs, each is good...but I'm not sure that the distinction between Roy Harper Jr. and LE Elektra is great enough to include them both on the list.

3) No LE should be on the list because of a feat card, and I think Sue Storm only qualifies because of the alt-F4 feat. If not for the 19 DV, she would be far outclassed by the Critical Mass puck. Similarly, Madame Hydra is primarily known for the great fit with Trick Shot.

4) I was surprised to not see Jane Foster...in practice, she's the best single figure medic in the game...and she is even better than 2 lower cost medics, IMO.

5) I was sad but not surprised, to see that Sam Wilson didn't make the list. He's probably not top 10 material, but he brings SOOO much to the SHIELD team.

Wow, no LE Jean Marie?

No Whitney Frost? With or without cards, before and after all the changes to the game, Whitney is worth all 51 of her points and more.

MOS is a heck of an LE though.

Not nearly as useful after the HSS rule change. That really hurt figures w/ short ranges to begin with.

BEST!

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Superman holds 2 of the top 5 slots. That's enough said for me. I'm going to write you in as my vote for president in '08 ol_Dut.

He is still a 'Limited Edition' in the technical sense of the term, since he was only available through a special promotion.

Some figs on this list might technically be 'Unique' and not LE (I think that applies to the Man of Steel. So the 'He's Experienced' doesn't necessarily exclude him from this list.

That being, I too am surprised he's not on the list. And I'm surprised at MoS being #1. I'm not sure who I would have listed as #2, but it probably wouldn't have been MoS.

Besides that, Great list 'Dut, and thanks for the effort!

Nice list :D


I need gwidow and man of steel still too >_< !

If Magog had HSS he'd so outclass all the Supermans.....

Even without the card, Sue is just silly for 49 points. Can you say Construct?
With the card she is just ########.

Wow 2 Indy LE's in the top 20. I am impressed. Not to much I would disagree with here. There are some small changes but nothing big.

Overall I think the list was pretty accurate. My number 1 is the NGN iron man. I would rank the man of steel behind the ngn supes as well, even though the theme is cool. I also think zombie spiderman and colonel america could have made the top 20. Spiderman is great for 40 points and the Colonel can finally run and throw his shield. Captain Mako is also a great LE for his points who is often forgotten. Overall, great list though

In general, I think the game is moving away from from those single function support figures like paramedics and con artists, whether they be the REV or Jane and Sarah. A quick scan of new pieces shows us Support showing up on the likes of Doc Midnight, Azreal and Silver Surfer for example. Perplex shows up figures like Elongated Man, Sage and Ant Man. All are figures who do more than one little "support" trick and are combat capable to varying degrees. With Support being roll a d6 and subtract 2 to a minimum of 1, I firmly believe that to be worth their points, a medic has to do something in addition to being a medic. Jane's got nothing. Ghost Widow, on the other hand, does a whole wicked bunch, and that's why the Widow is in and Jane is out.

Even though she may need a card to be used to her full effect, Sue Storm did change the game rather dramatically, and that's why I put her high up on the list. And I agree that while Trick Shot makes Madam Hydra insanely powerful, she was a gigantic menace and a top 10 LE long before the inception of feat cards. She was great without it, but she undoubtedly even better with TS. That's a sign of a great piece - one that continues to get even better as the game changes.

No one even plays old school F4 TA anymore. The fact that she needs a card is irrelevent since the card is a given. I agree; She is definitely a top ten listee.

In fact, I still am hugely opposed to the ruling that Sue Storm is a flier.

Glad to see Sue getting her props love that ff feat card!!!!

I really have to disagree with some thing here.

Tasty Cake fruit pies are way better and should have made the list.