LOL! Yeah. I knew it was in one of those. No need to appologize... most players don't know that either.

It was explained to me that it's the idea that a bush at the corner of a building would have leaves in the way that make it more difficult to get a clear shot from a gun (LOF), but if you were running, you could squeeze by right behind the bush.
Take that for what it's worth

Thanks!

Its funny, because the whole bush next to building was going to be the EXACT example I was going to use to prove that it WOULD be hindering on movement as well as for LoF ... LOL.

They must have some pretty small bushes in Seattle ... lol.

Also, the fact the you would have to "squeeze" by, by definition, would mean it DOES hinder your movement ... lol.

Similar question. Does the diagonal between a square of blocking terrain and a square of clear with a figure in it block LOS? I think it does.

Looks like I am as guilty of not reading as everyone else... at least, not reading all of the post

If I had read his whole post, I would've caught this and posted the E&C link; it is a pretty common question that comes up frequently enough that I have know exactly where it is in the E&C... which begs the question, "why was it not updated in the latest rule book?"

LoSH, page 31:

Characters can’t move into or through blocking terrain. No character can occupy a square of blocking terrain. Blocking terrain blocks any line of fire that crosses the boundary line surrounding it. Squares of blocking terrain that are diagonally adjacent are considered continuous blocking terrain and block any movement through the diagonal between them. As shown in Figure 16, a line of fire that passes through the diagonal of two diagonally adjacent squares of blocking terrain is blocked by the blocking terrain. A line of fire that passes through the diagonal between a square of blocking terrain and a square containing a character is blocked.

You are correct sir!

And you are not!

Little late there on the reply Hair ... LOL. I already re-canted that statement ... LOL.

Thanks! Gad, I wish I'd seen that. I just got that rulebook, and skimmed it looking for changes but hadn't yet read it thoroughly.

Well, if you were just looking for changes, that was probably the problem right there. While I am not willing to officially go on the record as saying that has always been there (though I think it has been), I know that that particular set up has been considered blocking terrain since at least Universe. One little line is pretty easy to skip over.

Just to be sure (and because this came up recently): If there's a patch of hindering terrain just outside of a doorway, with clear terrain to each side of the hindering, would a character be able to move diagonally between the hindering and the wall/edge of the doorway into the room without having to stop? (Presuming no special movement powers.)

IC
C H
IC

C = clear terrain
I = Wall
H = Hindering

Would movement from C to (shining) C be over/through clear terrain? (The spacing's a little difficult to show, since the walls don't have a thickness as far as the map grid's concerned.)

Yeah... I hadn't made it through the thread yet.

Correct.

It would be clear.

Per the General E&C:

Two squares of diagonally adjacent terrain that are not the same type (such as a square of hindering and a square of blocking) are clear for movement purposes.