with the range switching to dc, dc gets the win over marvel 4-3. I also agree on a team marvel's ares is more workable mainly because of the double arrows to target 2 opposing targets. And the thunderbolts feat although dc's outwit is more supportive to the team. On a one on one dc's ares would destroy marvel's ares hands down, assuming no impervious rolls are made and dc's bases marvel's ares

with the range switching to dc, dc gets the win over marvel 4-3. I also agree on a team marvel's ares is more workable mainly because of the double arrows to target 2 opposing targets. And the thunderbolts feat although dc's outwit is more supportive to the team. On a one on one dc's ares would destroy marvel's ares hands down, assuming no impervious rolls are made and dc's bases marvel's ares

Good review. I prefer the DC version mostly because of how bad-@$$ the sculpt looks. I wish I had either one though...

DC Ares won 7 of 10. Did it last week with my son.

I would also like to say great review. 1v1 DC is dominate. However on a team I would go with M Ares. JMO.

Both versions are very much willing to use bows, javelins, crossbows, automatic rifles, Uzis, plasma weapons, etc. They define the soldier and the general and will use whatever weapon they feel to be appropriate for the situation.

Also DemonRS, you write in your damage comparison that the Marvel Ares can use his perplex to help allies. That's incorrect. Ares can only use Tactics to modify his own combat values. On clicks 3-5, if Ares isn't going for 5 straight damage, then he's going to boost his range to surprise someone, or boost his AV to hit high defenses like KC Green Lantern or the Fantastic Four.

Shouldn't you not use feats? this makes it more natural you know...

well, we have to remember that Marvel is all around MUCH better than DC in everything.

Don't believe me? Does Marvel have some whiny crybaby punching walls that aren't there to fix their continuity?

That should settle it. Plus Marvel Ares knows what's important. Coin and chicks.

Marvel Ares all the way.

DC version looks cooler, so he wins in my book.

Anyone care to read my book?

No?

Lots of lists of winners and losers in there! Y'sure?

Ok.

I'd take the Marvel flavor of Ares. He's just that much more flexible than the DC version.

Holding a the 3D desk, and T-Bolted to Suicide squad, he can push on his first click, gain a +2 DV, and be healed back to full by pushing a cheap bystander (Lian Harper, of course) next to him. Paired with Shellhead, he would be at a 21 DV until your next turn.

Personally, I'd use MOE, as he can be exceptional on all clicks if played properly (max 8 damage on flurry clicks, holding a HO for the first attack; 7 on the first holding a HO; 6 on BCF rolls). Unless you're going to be targeting a 17+ DV character and can't risk missing an attack roll, use his special power to boost his AV, otherwise pump it up to 4-5.

you forgot one other criteria, sculpt.

dc ares' sculpt is so much better than the marvel version that, that should be the tie-breaker. plus the fact the dc version is a lot harder to acquire as a collector due to the fact it's from an out of print set. playability wise you can add a plus to marvel for not being retired also.

Last time I checked, putting a 1pt pog in front a flyer will stop their range also. granted they can still "range" attack the pog, but neither Ares has RCE so I dont see where being a flyer gives the DC Ares a range advantage over the Marvel version. A big advantage for movement, but not for range. IMHO

Im sorry, but Marvel Ares Running shot means jack, DC Ares gets 10 squares outwit running shot.

Yeah, but MAN OH MAN is it going to suck when Marvel ares is 14 squares away from DC ares, dang no outwit for you DC Ares. Or better yet hiding behind blocking terrain then he uses running shot and pops out of nowhere "HIII AREESS".

I agree with this. In fact, Marvel's Ares having 2 bolts helps him in this regard, as he can target the pog for 1 and another target for 4 without losing much (before the pog bases him, of course). DC's Ares can either smear the pog for 5 before it bases him, or phase away from it (barring crushing it ). The only thing that would be nice for him is that he could keep his object (say, a desk?) by ranging the pog in BtB, Marvel's Ares, if he's based, would have to burn the object or risk a breakaway.

Good review but anyone wonder how long before that picture gets pulled. What is Wonder Woman Ares new toy. LOL