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My point was that if you want to use Charge while you're adjacent, you MUST breakaway.... but if you're adjacent to a figure and want to Charge, you might as well just hit them without using Charge.
Again, that is what I said: roll breakaway (and risk wasting an action) or just attack this guy right here (who may be a less favorable target... but at least you are guaranteed the chance to make the attack).
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With V's power, it reads very similar to Charge (except that it's full speed and different conditions) in that you move, then make an attack. If you move while adjacent to an opposing figure, you have to breakaway.
That is what I said, too.
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Now, since this is a SP that happens before the initial action/attack resolves, it might be ruled that he doesn't have to roll breakaway..... but I think it would be ruled that you would have to breakaway because you're starting a movement.
I disagree slightly here: mid-action or no, I firmly believe he'll be required to roll breakaway if he wants to move. That's the whole point of breakaway, after all.
Where I see the wiggle room, is when Citizen V doesn't want to move, wether or not it will be like wanting to use a zero-move Charge/Pounce (which requires a breakaway roll, even if it is a zero-move) or if he can just go ahead and attack. It will depend on just how optional that "may move" part is: are you required to move, even just a zero move, to activate the free attack or can the movement be skipped.
I disagree slightly here: mid-action or no, I firmly believe he'll be required to roll breakaway if he wants to move. That's the whole point of breakaway, after all.
Where I see the wiggle room, is when Citizen V doesn't want to move, wether or not it will be like wanting to use a zero-move Charge/Pounce (which requires a breakaway roll, even if it is a zero-move) or if he can just go ahead and attack. It will depend on just how optional that "may move" part is: are you required to move, even just a zero move, to activate the free attack or can the movement be skipped.
This is the part I was pointing out that I disagree with. Sometimes just writing things online don't get through very clearly. LOL!
I think it's that you're reading that "May move", then he can attack (meaning he has the option to move or not), while I'm reading that "he may... move... and make one close combat attack" (meaning that he MAY do the entire action, which requires him to move, then attack if he does the free action).
-Heroclix is not a game of logic, it's a game of strategy .... after all, when's the last time that you saw a giant (using a stealth ability) that was hiding behind a swingset... and nobody could SEE him????
I think it's that you're reading that "May move", then he can attack (meaning he has the option to move or not), while I'm reading that "he may... move... and make one close combat attack" (meaning that he MAY do the entire action, which requires him to move, then attack if he does the free action).
Yeah, it's the difference between
"(may immediately move up to his full speed value) and (make one close combat attack")
and
"may (immediately move up to his full speed value and make one close combat attack)"
However, I think the phrase "up to" in there means that either way you interpret it, he can move 0 and attack, without having to break away. If "up to" wasn't in there, I don't know what I'd think.
Thanks for the help. It seems there are still a few questions that will hopefully be cleared up in a faq. But, I really appreciate the clarification that was given.
Yeah, it's the difference between
"(may immediately move up to his full speed value) and (make one close combat attack")
and
"may (immediately move up to his full speed value and make one close combat attack)"
However, I think the phrase "up to" in there means that either way you interpret it, he can move 0 and attack, without having to break away. If "up to" wasn't in there, I don't know what I'd think.
That's what I was mentioning.
And yes, any figure can move "up to" their speed... a 0 move/attack has been used many times.
-Heroclix is not a game of logic, it's a game of strategy .... after all, when's the last time that you saw a giant (using a stealth ability) that was hiding behind a swingset... and nobody could SEE him????