What a mess, double-base figures can be. You were right, placing Flash in G19/20 makes it impossible for Jinx to see him. However, the only way you can place him like that, is using 9 squares to take Flash's half from P18 to either G20 or G19.

That means that Flash movement was all done when he got there, so he needs to stay adjacent to Psimon. Unfortunately for me, if you ask me. But those are the rules. Double base figures can't flip one of the sides to win an extra square of movement. Both sides need to reach the place where their being placed.

Anyway, feel free to ask around, and I'll redo my 3A turn if I'm wrong about that.

FFive turn 3A

free) Psimon outwits Hawkman's charge. Roll: 1. Charge outwitted

1DFD to Psimon

1) Harley Quinn moves to F11

free) Harley perplexes Jinx's attack to 9. Roll: 6. Perplex ignored.

2) Jinx range attacks Green Arrow. 8 vs 15, Rolls 3,5, giving 2 dmg to GA.

1SA to Jinx

3) Parademon Scout breakaway. Rolls 4. Picks Psimon and flies to F14, dropping Psimon at G15

free) Jinx copies Superman Enemies, and outwits Flash's PC. Roll: 3. PC outwitted

free) Psimon copies Superman Enemies and outwits GA's Energy Explosion. Roll: 3. EE outwitted

Others clear

* Psimon keeps using Shape Change always

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Feluwelt's Justice league of America (Home)

1) E Batman (IC) 47pts (1/6) O2
2) U The Flash (CR) 123pts (7/8) F/G-21 (PC outwitted)
3) R Green Arrow (CJ) 29pts (3/5) * N-18@ (Energy Explosion outwitted)
4) R Hawkman (OR) 59pts (7/7) O-17 (charge outwitted)
5) R Robin (BA) 30pts (6/6) O-17
* Stunning Blow 10

total 298

Green Arrow SA 1
The Flash SA 1

versus

Passaporte's Fearsome Five (Visitor)

1) R Parademon Scout (3/3) 13 F14@
2) R Intergang Medic (3/3) 20 H14
3) R Harley Quinn (ht) (4/4) 27 F11@
4) R Jinx (4/5) 44 I14@ (hind) (outwits Flash's PC)
1SA
5) V Doctor Light (6/7) 84 G10
1SA
6) E Psimon* (4/6) 94 G15 (outwits Hawkman's charge, and GA's EE with Superman Enemies)
* w/ Camouflage 8 and Outsmart 10
1AST, 2DFD

300 pts

BFC: White Noise
When a character is the target of Outwit or Perplex, its controlled rolls on six-sided die. On a result of 4-6, the target ignores that use of Outwit or Perplex.

HO: L24, N24, I14
LO: L1, I22, O17

Map: Danger Room

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils/...&z1=x-287y-351

just to let you know psimon cannot get outwit twice. A character with outwit cannot gain the power from the team ability.

Outwit says once per turn. No matter how many times you gain outwit, you can only use outwit once per turn. You cannot use it twice, so the outwit on GA does not work.

Also flash's movement was legal, I will explain how it works in a second, but I don't think it matters much so I can just leave him where he is.

JLA Turn 3B

well leave flash were you want him for sakes of not wanted to look for the rules online so I can copy and paste them and the thread, but it only works with figures that are duo based and have hypersonic speed

1) batman runs away to S-7

2) hawman picks up GA and flies to H-15 placing GA in G-16

3) robin takes a shot on jinx 10av on a 16 def roll of a 3 misses doh where is the PC when i need it lol

atm no one has LOS to the flash (hopefully he will be my means to a victory)
==============================================

Feluwelt's Justice league of America (Home)

1) E Batman (IC) 47pts (1/6) S7 @
2) U The Flash (CR) 123pts (7/8) F/G-21
3) R Green Arrow (CJ) 29pts (3/5) * G-16 (Energy Explosion outwitted)
4) R Hawkman (OR) 59pts (7/7) H-15 @ (charge outwitted)
5) R Robin (BA) 30pts (6/6) O-17 @
* Stunning Blow 10

total 298

Green Arrow SA 1
The Flash SA 1

versus

Passaporte's Fearsome Five (Visitor)

1) R Parademon Scout (3/3) 13 F14@
2) R Intergang Medic (3/3) 20 H14
3) R Harley Quinn (ht) (4/4) 27 F11@
4) R Jinx (4/5) 44 I14@ (hind) (outwits Flash's PC)
1SA
5) V Doctor Light (6/7) 84 G10
1SA
6) E Psimon* (4/6) 94 G15 (outwits Hawkman's charge, and GA's EE with Superman Enemies)
* w/ Camouflage 8 and Outsmart 10
1AST, 2DFD

300 pts

BFC: White Noise
When a character is the target of Outwit or Perplex, its controlled rolls on six-sided die. On a result of 4-6, the target ignores that use of Outwit or Perplex.

HO: L24, N24, I14
LO: L1, I22, O17

Map: Danger Room

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils/...&z1=x-287y-351

Passaporte has had this conversation before

Yes, Psimon can use outwit twice. His special abiilty allows him to "use" Outwit while Supe Enemy gives him the power outwit. I don't necessarily like that interpretation, but it is what it is.

Please have the dice rolls emailed from this point in the game on.

I cannot accept rolls that I do not receive an email for from this point forward, thanks.

ok, i read the rules thread about psimon I am ok with that. Sorry I was told in the past when Vet darseid was around that he could not gain outwit again.

Here is the rules about moving double based figures from the FF rule book.

" A double based character must END its movement so that both ends of its base occupy squares where is could end that movement and both ends of the base are on the terrian of the same elevation. "

So flash when making his attack he is not ending his movement with hypersonic speed. I am allowed to move and flip my base as long as I am within my max range of movement. Then continue to move back.

"The player moving a double based character choices any square adjacent to the double character to begin movement.

so flash with his 9 movement moved N-19, M-19,L-19,K-19,J-19, I-19, H-20, G-20 (at this point he flips his base to attack since it is within my max movement and occupy G-19/G-20), after the attack I continue my movement counting from my base at G-20 to F-21 placing both of my bases within my max movement which is F-21/G-21

Ok, I think some clearing is in order at this time:

- I didn't place Flash where I wanted, just where I thought he should be considering double-base figures' rules for movement. Why would I want him basing two figures of mine and had to roll for breakaway with Parademon? The only reason could be to avoid Flash using PC on Jinx's attack on Green Arrow, but I took Flash's PC out that turn too, so that wouldn't be an issue. Since you cleared it that those movement rules don't apply during HSS, and since Flash location had no influence in my turn(except for the breakaway that was not needed after all), consider Flash in the squares you took him to, since the movement was a legal one. We don't even need to correct the stats.

- Rolling dice servers. I don't like neither have the time to wait for rolls to arrive by mail to complete my turn. That's why I use to play my turn, and just trust that the mails will arrive later. Since sometimes they don't, I "take pictures" of the rolls, so I can prove that they were rolled. I do this by making jpegs out of the window I used for rolls.
I emailed you these rolls, but clearly is not enough, so I'll have to find a different server to roll from, that actually delivers emails successfully.

Considering that Flash is on F21/G21, Jinx has LOS to him.

Please let me know if you want to change 3B accordingly. That is, if you want to place Hawkman+GA differently to avoid this.

Edit sorry double post

no I am good, place flash where I origonaly had him and we can continue.

I want hawkman and green arrow where I put them.

Flash will use his PC on the outwit roll if you sucessfully outwit his PC fyi

Woops I reread white noise I can't pc the roll since I am making it not you.

I checked the ruleset for White Noise, and it doesn't matter who rolls. PC can't be used to reroll White Noise's rolls. One thing that it's not clear, is either I can use the same power on a different target or not. But I think I can't. The character ignores the use of that perplex or outwit, it doesn't say that the power was not used at all. Otherwise, it would need to be said that I can't use it again on the same character.

F5 Turn 4A

free) Jinx copies SuperFoes and tries to outwit Flash's PC. Flash rolls a 4. Outwit ignored.

free) Harley Quinn perplexes Psimon's dmg to 3. Psimon rolls a 4, which means perplex is ignored.

1) Psimon mind controls Hawkman. 8 vs 16. Rolls 5,3, succeeding. 1SA to Psimon

free) Hawkman attacks Green Arrow with CCE. 10 vs 13. Rolls 5,1, succeeding. Flash PCs it to 6,2. Green Arrow takes 4 of dmg and is KOed

1KO to Psimon

free) Psimon outwits Flash's HSS. Roll: 6 (outwit ignored)

free) Psimon copies Superfoes and outwits Flash's HSS. Roll: 5 Another one ignored.

2) Parademon Scout flies to J10, takes Psimon to I9. 1pushing dmg to Parademon Scout.

3) Dr Light moves to J14

free) Light copies Superman Enemies, and outwits Flash's HSS. Flash rolls 1. HSS outwitted

Your turn.

*Psimon will keep on using Shape Change.

==============================================

Feluwelt's Justice league of America (Home)

1) E Batman (IC) 47pts (1/6) S7 @
2) U The Flash (CR) 123pts (7/8) F/G-21 (HSS outwitted)
3) R Green Arrow (CJ) 29pts (0/5) * KOKOKO
4) R Hawkman (OR) 59pts (7/7) H-15 @
5) R Robin (BA) 30pts (6/6) O-17 @
* Stunning Blow 10

total 298

Green Arrow SA 1
The Flash SA 1

versus

Passaporte's Fearsome Five (Visitor)

1) R Parademon Scout (2/3) 13 J10@@
2) R Intergang Medic (3/3) 20 H14
3) R Harley Quinn (ht) (4/4) 27 F11
4) R Jinx (4/5) 44 I14 (hind)
1SA
5) V Doctor Light (6/7) 84 J14@ (outwits Flash's HSS)
1SA
6) E Psimon* (4/6) 94 I9@
* w/ Camouflage 8 and Outsmart 10
1AST, 2DFD, 1SA, 1KO

300 pts

BFC: White Noise
When a character is the target of Outwit or Perplex, its controlled rolls on six-sided die. On a result of 4-6, the target ignores that use of Outwit or Perplex.

HO: L24, N24, I14
LO: L1, I22, O17

Map: Danger Room

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils/...&y1=x-124y-353

JLA turn 4B

(That last turn was terrible for you. The BFC really hurt sorry)

(white noise comes into play after outwit is used since the target of the outwit or perplex makes the roll) (Outwit or perplex is used since it only comes into play after it targets someone and is used) (It would have to say you can use the power again against someone different, like shape-change for you to use it again)

1) Hawkman's mace pulses with energy as he lifts it over his head and savagely slams it into the poor little medic's skull. Poor guy was outmatched as his head flies to the side followed by his body. As the smoke from the impact clears all Jinx and hawkman sees is the unconscious body of the medic.

(10av vs 14 def roll of a 4 hits with Close Combat Expert for 4 damage and the KO)

2) Robin takes the Villainous Dr. Light in his sights. This one is for batman he shoots, as he throws a steel baton and it hits Dr light in the shoulder. Dr light says ouch and turns his head to see robin standing there looking fierce.

(10av on a 19def roll of a 10 (6,4) hits for 2 dmg)

(With the Intergang Medic defeated every member of your team loses the Superman enemy team ability and loses outwit, therefor flash regains hypersonic speed)

3) The flash uses hypersonic speed to run to K14/L15 and attack Dr Light. 9av on a 15 def roll of a 6 hits for 2 dmg. Flash then runs to M13/14

Batman who is still seeing stars from Dr. Light's attack, clears as he recovers.

==============================================

Feluwelt's Justice league of America (Home)

1) E Batman (IC) 47pts (1/6) S7
2) U The Flash (CR) 123pts (7/8) M 13/14 @
3) R Green Arrow (CJ) 29pts (0/5) * KOKOKO
4) R Hawkman (OR) 59pts (6/7) H-15 @@
5) R Robin (BA) 30pts (5/6) O-17 @@
* Stunning Blow 10

total 298

Green Arrow SA 1
The Flash SA 2
Hawkman SA 1, KO 1
Robin SA 1
versus

Passaporte's Fearsome Five (Visitor)

1) R Parademon Scout (2/3) 13 J10@@
2) R Intergang Medic 20 KO
3) R Harley Quinn (ht) (4/4) 27 F11
4) R Jinx (4/5) 44 I14 (hind)
1SA
5) V Doctor Light (2/7) 84 J14@ (outwits Flash's HSS)
1SA
6) E Psimon* (4/6) 94 I9@
* w/ Camouflage 8 and Outsmart 10
1AST, 2DFD, 1SA, 1KO

300 pts

BFC: White Noise
When a character is the target of Outwit or Perplex, its controlled rolls on six-sided die. On a result of 4-6, the target ignores that use of Outwit or Perplex.

HO: L24, N24, I14
LO: L1, I22, O17

Map: Danger Room

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils/...173&w1=x-67y-3

Yeah, I should know better than to keep playing a game where luck is involved. You thought last turn was bad? Check this one.

F5 turn 5A

free) Psimon outwits Hawkman's ESD. Hawkman rolls a 4, outwit ignored.

free) Harley Quinn perplexes Jinx's attack to 9. Jinx's roll: 2. Perplex in.

1) Jinx close attack Hawkman. 9 vs 16. Rolls 3,3 , 1 short to hit, so it's a miss.

2) Harley Quinn moves to I13

3) Dr Light copies Batman's Enemies, and pushes to range attack Batman, using Harle's AV. 8 vs 13. Rolls 1,2 missing. When it's not meant to be, it's not meant to be.

Others clear, Psimon will Shape Change attacks.

==============================================

Feluwelt's Justice league of America (Home)

1) E Batman (IC) 47pts (1/6) S7
2) U The Flash (CR) 123pts (7/8) M 13/14 @
3) R Green Arrow (CJ) 29pts (0/5) * KOKOKO
4) R Hawkman (OR) 59pts (6/7) H-15 @@
5) R Robin (BA) 30pts (5/6) O-17 @@
* Stunning Blow 10

total 298

Green Arrow SA 1
The Flash SA 2
Hawkman SA 1, KO 1
Robin SA 1
versus

Passaporte's Fearsome Five (Visitor)

1) R Parademon Scout (2/3) 13 J10
2) R Intergang Medic 20 KO
3) R Harley Quinn (ht) (4/4) 27 I13@
4) R Jinx (4/5) 44 I14@ (hind)
1SA
5) V Doctor Light (1/7) 84 J14@@
1SA
6) E Psimon* (4/6) 94 I9
* w/ Camouflage 8 and Outsmart 10
1AST, 2DFD, 1SA, 1KO

300 pts

BFC: White Noise
When a character is the target of Outwit or Perplex, its controlled rolls on six-sided die. On a result of 4-6, the target ignores that use of Outwit or Perplex.

HO: L24, N24, I14
LO: L1, I22, O17

Map: Danger Room

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils/...173&w1=x-67y-3

JLA Turn 5B

1) batman goes and hides in the bushes at M-9

2) Flash runs by psimon and in a whirlwind his punches fly around psimon wildly, when the smoke clears psimon does not realize what happened but is happy he is not hurt.

shapehange is a 4
9av on a 15 def roll of a 5 misses, flash PCs it to another 5

flash runs over to D5/6 on a push

Robin and hawkman clear
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Feluwelt's Justice league of America (Home)

1) E Batman (IC) 47pts (1/6) M9 @
2) U The Flash (CR) 123pts (7/8) D 5/6 @@
3) R Green Arrow (CJ) 29pts (0/5) * KOKOKO
4) R Hawkman (OR) 59pts (6/7) H-15
5) R Robin (BA) 30pts (5/6) O-17
* Stunning Blow 10

total 298

Green Arrow SA 1
The Flash SA 2
Hawkman SA 1, KO 1
Robin SA 1
versus

Passaporte's Fearsome Five (Visitor)

1) R Parademon Scout (2/3) 13 J10
2) R Intergang Medic 20 KO
3) R Harley Quinn (ht) (4/4) 27 I13@
4) R Jinx (4/5) 44 I14@ (hind)
1SA
5) V Doctor Light (1/7) 84 J14@@
1SA
6) E Psimon* (4/6) 94 I9
* w/ Camouflage 8 and Outsmart 10
1AST, 2DFD, 1SA, 1KO

300 pts

BFC: White Noise
When a character is the target of Outwit or Perplex, its controlled rolls on six-sided die. On a result of 4-6, the target ignores that use of Outwit or Perplex.

HO: L24, N24, I14
LO: L1, I22, O17

Map: Danger Room
http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils/...&z2=x-723y-517