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"In c-grade man-versus-nature sci-fi flicks, there's always a solution that involves setting off a nuke. Only question is where."
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I always thought there was some woman in a coma involved as well...
Congrats to Quebbster, Harpua, and normalview for a much deserved appointment. Now I can finally say with confidence and without argument...because Harpua said so.
Team Mobilehorror were the proud purveyors of Print & Play from pre-NECA 2008 to 2015. A good ride while it lasted. Keep rollin' 8s .
The the earth will be restored to life when the chosen one comes and spits into the pit of barreness. And the space zombies shall rise and not be stopped till the killer trancer bunnies unite and peace will reign once more. Till tomorrow...
Just to be clear, does this mean that these guys rulings are making official rulings on rules questions? Or when they post things like "well, in my opinion this is how this works but I need to wait for Norm to make it official"? We will then receive a "Well, I need to wait for Wizkids to tell me how this was meant to be"? and result in the same or more waiting time?
This process is already WAY to inefficient, having to search through hundreds of threads to find answers to questions and then having to wade through hundreds of posts to find the official post?
Whatever happened to term limits for the RAs as well? There were a lot of rulings from the "Norm Years" that I didn't care for and felt were cumbersome and counterintuitive and was looking forward to fresh eyes on some things...I know we are in a state of transition with things starting back up and that the current set-up is convenient and easy but what is the plan for the future? I have now been through 1 great super hero game going down with a second just now being resuscitated from a nearly similar fate and would hope to avoid that in the future...
Last edited by lestiff416; 12/21/2009 at 12:15..
Reason: Correcting some stuff...
And when the fourth is chosen, he will be known as Death...
Congrats, guys, all well deserved! It's really just official recognition for what you've been doing here for free for a long time.
The thing I'm wondering is about translation of the Rules Deputy to the inevitable NECA/WK official forum.
Which makes me actually wonder if there will be an official NECA/WK forum... I didn't particularly like the poke in the eye that the Realms got when the old WK set up their official forum, and the subsequent ruling that "official" things could happen on the official forum, but I 100% understood it from a business communciation perspective -- you would probably want an official web site, controlled by your company, to do official things on, not some fan-owned "after-market" web site. No matter how much better that fan-owned web site is than your own web site.
What I like about this ruling is that it seems to be a NECA/WK trend right now to recognize the Realms as a more intrinsic part of the game than it was before... yes, WK is getting its own web site set up right now, and Norm has posted over there, but it seems as if they recognize that Clix really wouldn't be anywhere right now as an organized force, after this last year, if it weren't for the Realms. I hope this trend continues, and doesn't start going the other way, as the last WK official forums tried to make it do (downplay the importance of the Realms).
I particularly hope that the new WK forum gets used to capture all the "official" rulings, and that there is synergy between a ruling here and an official statement on the WK forum... it'd be nice to see the two sites working together.
Just to be clear, does this mean that these guys rulings are making official rulings on rules questions? Or when they post things like "well, in my opinion this is how this works but I need to wait for Norm to make it official"? We will then receive a "Well, I need to wait for Wizkids to tell me how this was meant to be"? and result in the same or more waiting time?
In addition to helping out people with questions like we (along with many others) have always done, this is a method to end a lot of the back and forth debate that basically eventually boils down to "I think [insert pet peeve] works this way because I want it to work that way." In those cases, Hapua, Quebbster, and I can now official say, "Nope, because the player's guide/rule book/PAC/etc says otherwise. Sorry you don't like it, but that's the way it is." (see Strongest of the Rock Trolls, for example)
Also, when an issue comes along that may not have ever been specifically addressed, but similar issues in the past have always consistently gone one way, we can say, "Here's the way it has gone in the past, and it is likely that this is the way it will go in the future. Barring official clarification from nbperp/GD, go with the precedent." (see things like the M-11, Air-Walker, Odin, etc. Unique debates)
Finally, for brand-new never seen before issues, we can also give our opinions on how issues should be ruled (and cite whatever semi-relevant precedent might be help clarify things), and then pass the buck along to nbperp for a more permanent solution.
normalview - it clears up what the rolls are but that isn't any different than what is happening today. As you state you guys are already inserting your opinions into most of these rules questions threads (and in most cases I haven't seen anything I disagree with though I certainly haven't read everything...) and from what I have seen you 3 are all very knowledgeable and qualified to insert your opinions.
But they are still just opinions about your interpretation of the rules documents, use of precedent and general opinion about issues. If it isn't official, I don't see what the point is of doing this. What happens if 2 of you have different opinions about something? This just seems to further muddle an already messy process...
Whatever happened to term limits for the RAs as well? There were a lot of rulings from the "Norm Years" that I didn't care for and felt were cumbersome and counterintuitive and was looking forward to fresh eyes on some things...I know we are in a state of transition with things starting back up and that the current set-up is convenient and easy but what is the plan for the future? I have now been through 1 great super hero game going down with a second just now being resuscitated from a nearly similar fate and would hope to avoid that in the future...
You realize that Norm was, and is, just the messenger. Everything that he officially reported as definitive were not necessarily his opinions. He offered his opinion until he received clarification from Game Design. What you didn't like were the decisions that were handed down from GD...odds are you will still get rulings that you disagree with, but it won't be, and never was, Norm's fault.
:edit: by the way, congrats to all three of you! I'd like to say that this will lessen some of the back and forth that we tend to see, but I doubt it.
Well, I AM pretty awesome.
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Congrats, guys. It's nice to see that you now have some official backing to what you have all been trying to do for us in the past year of no clix. You have all defended the frontlines when nobody else was fighting the war.
Does the invention of Rules deputies eliminate the need for Rules Lawyers? I hope so...those guys suck.
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