Nice move

If you move with Thinker, does that make the perplex go away? Gotta check the rules forum real quick...

I'm going to hold off on taking my turn until I get a definitive answer in the rules forum about changing TAs.

If the perplex goes away, KK would only be hit for 5 and would use CR to be knocked back five squares.

Regardless of the ruling, here's a preview of my next turn...

Leadership...misses!

Ok, going to bed now, but Normalview ruled that the perplex does in fact go away when you switch TAs.

http://hcrealms.com/forum/showthread...=1#post4997252

3B re-do

1/2) Thinker copies Checkmate, and the Agents Perplex up Attack/damage on Amazon 1.

Free TA) Plas to breakaway with Cap: 5 as this was all legal. They move to where they were gonna go before.

3) Amazon 1 will Charge to E-18 on KK. AV 11 on DV 17+2, needs 7 for 6 and the KO. Rolls: 5, miss.

4) Amazon 2 will try the same thing, charging to G-18 on KK. Rolls: 9. 5 damage to KK. 1 SA Amazons.

Free TA) Thinker phases to E-22 and outwits V's Charge.


mbauers' Bad Dudes

1) Mikron O'Jeneus 79 pts (5/5) C-12 @ (LoA ATA)
2) Iron Fist 70 pts (7/7) F-16 @ (LoA ATA)
3) Karate Kid 63 pts (1/6) F-17 @ (LoA ATA)
4) Citizen V 58 pts (6/6) B-12 @
5) Man Bat Assassin* 40 pts (5/5) F-13 @ (LoA ATA)
6) League Elite* 33 pts (5/5) F-14 @ (LoA ATA)
7) Amazon of Bana Migh-dall 19 pts (4/4) C-7 @
8) Amazon of Bana Migh-dall 19 pts (4/4) B-5
* League of Assassins ATA 7 pts

Total: 395

Karate Kid 1 SA
Citizen V 1 AST
League Elite 1 AST

VS.

TheVagrantKing's Pitfall

1) HoT Captain America 72 (4/6) D-23
2) Thinker 55 (5/5) E-22 @
3) Plastic Man 55 (6/6) D/E-22 @
4) Amazon 50 (5/5) E-18 @
5) Amazon 50 (5/5) G-18 @
6) Gypsy 44 (5/6) H-17
7) Checkmate Knight (White)* 29 (3/3) @
8) Checkmate Knight (White)* 29 (3/3) @
* Checkmate ATA 6 per

Total: 296

HO: C-11, F-15
LO:

Map: Ruined School

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils/...22&z2=x-536y45

Your Go.[/quote]

Are we supposed to redo the turn? You didn't make any illegal moves or anything. You just made a move that was sub-optimal, yet legal.

If your original turn stands, the only difference is that instead of KK being KOed, he is knocked back to A-17 (from CR) and is on his last click. The map would look like this:

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils/...42&z2=x-540y45

So why the redo? I mean, I suppose I can take a turn either way, I'm just trying to understand the rationale behind it... (Note that had both of your attacks missed I still would have posted this exact post)

Well, whatever. Choose a turn you'd like to go with.

I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, I just bring it up because the net result is the same (KK hit for 5) but in the redo you attacked from a different position that was no longer adjacent to Iron Fist (and I therefore can't retaliate).

I don't think it's fair to redo the positioning like that, so I'm going to stick with the original turn. Hope you're ok with that.

Turn 4a:

Free) Leadership fails as wildcards copy Avengers TA.

Free) Mikron perplexes Iron Fist's attack up to 12.

1) Iron Fist flurries Amazon 1, 12 (perp) vs 19--hits for 3! Second flurry hits for the KO! No push due to Willpower.

2) Wildcards copy LoA TA as Amazon 8 runs to C-10.

Others clear.

mbauers' Bad Dudes

1) Mikron O'Jeneus 79 pts (5/5) C-12 (LoA ATA)
2) Iron Fist 70 pts (7/7) F-16 @@ (LoA ATA)
3) Karate Kid 63 pts (1/6) A-17 (LoA ATA)
4) Citizen V 58 pts (6/6) B-12
5) Man Bat Assassin* 40 pts (5/5) F-13 (LoA ATA)
6) League Elite* 33 pts (5/5) F-14 (LoA ATA)
7) Amazon of Bana Migh-dall 19 pts (4/4) C-7
8) Amazon of Bana Migh-dall 19 pts (4/4) C-10 @
* League of Assassins ATA 7 pts

Total: 395

Karate Kid 1 SA
Citizen V 1 AST
League Elite 1 AST
Iron Fist 2 SA, 1 KO

VS.

TheVagrantKing's Pitfall

1) HoT Captain America 72 (4/6) G-23
2) Thinker 55 (5/5) F-22 @
3) Plastic Man 55 (6/6) G/H-22 @
4) Amazon 50 (5/5) G-17 @
5) Amazon 50 (5/5) H-18 w/ HO @
6) Gypsy 44 (5/6) H-17
7) Checkmate Knight (White)* 29 (3/3) @
8) Checkmate Knight (White)* 29 (3/3) @
* Checkmate ATA 6 per

Total: 296

Amazon: 1 SA, 1 KO
Checkmate: 2 AST

HO: C-11, F-15, Amazon 2
LO: L-14

Map: Ruined School
http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils/...42&z2=x-540y45

Your Go.

It's fine. I was in a bad mood because of some campers on Halo: Reach. Wasn't a lot of fun

Ah, ok.

Game on, then!

4B

1) Amazon 2 will charge to G-17 on Iron Fist. AV 10 on DV 17, needs 7 for 5. Rolls 10. SS: 3. 5 damage to Iron Fist. Push to Amazon.

2) Gypsy will walk to F-18.

mbauers' Bad Dudes

1) Mikron O'Jeneus 79 pts (5/5) C-12 (LoA ATA)
2) Iron Fist 70 pts (2/7) F-16 @@ (LoA ATA)
3) Karate Kid 63 pts (1/6) A-17 (LoA ATA)
4) Citizen V 58 pts (6/6) B-12
5) Man Bat Assassin* 40 pts (5/5) F-13 (LoA ATA)
6) League Elite* 33 pts (5/5) F-14 (LoA ATA)
7) Amazon of Bana Migh-dall 19 pts (4/4) C-7
8) Amazon of Bana Migh-dall 19 pts (4/4) C-10 @
* League of Assassins ATA 7 pts

Total: 395

Karate Kid 1 SA
Citizen V 1 AST
League Elite 1 AST
Iron Fist 2 SA, 1 KO

VS.

TheVagrantKing's Pitfall

1) HoT Captain America 72 (4/6) G-23
2) Thinker 55 (5/5) F-22
3) Plastic Man 55 (6/6) G/H-22
4) Amazon 50 (0/5) KOed
5) Amazon 50 (4/5) G-17 @@
6) Gypsy 44 (5/6) F-18 @
7) Checkmate Knight (White)* 29 (3/3)
8) Checkmate Knight (White)* 29 (3/3)
* Checkmate ATA 6 per

Total: 296

Amazon: 2 SA
Checkmate: 2 AST

HO: C-11, F-15, Amazon 2
LO: L-14

Map: Ruined School
http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils/...42&z2=x-540y45

Your Go.[/quote]

Turn 5a:

Free) Leadership succeeds!

Free) Karate kid flies to A-11.

Free) Mikron perplexes CV's move up to 9.

1) CV charges to F-17 /w BCF vs Amazon, 10 vs 17--miss.

2) MBA charge to E-17 vs Gypsy, 9 vs 17--critical miss.

Free) Mikron flies to F-15.

3) Wildcards copy LoA as LE runs to E-22.

4) Amazon 7 runs to A-10.

That turn didn't go as planned.

mbauers' Bad Dudes

1) Mikron O'Jeneus 79 pts (5/5) F-15 @ (LoA ATA)
2) Iron Fist 70 pts (2/7) F-16 (LoA ATA)
3) Karate Kid 63 pts (1/6) A-11 @ (LoA ATA)
4) Citizen V 58 pts (6/6) F-17 @
5) Man Bat Assassin* 40 pts (4/5) E-17 @ (LoA ATA)
6) League Elite* 33 pts (5/5) E-22 @ (stealth)
7) Amazon of Bana Migh-dall 19 pts (4/4) A-10 @
8) Amazon of Bana Migh-dall 19 pts (4/4) C-10
* League of Assassins ATA 7 pts

Total: 395

Karate Kid 1 SA
Citizen V 1 AST
League Elite 1 AST
Iron Fist 2 SA, 1 KO

VS.

TheVagrantKing's Pitfall

1) HoT Captain America 72 (4/6) G-23
2) Thinker 55 (5/5) F-22
3) Plastic Man 55 (6/6) G/H-22
4) Amazon 50 (0/5) KOed
5) Amazon 50 (4/5) G-17 @@
6) Gypsy 44 (5/6) F-18 @
7) Checkmate Knight (White)* 29 (3/3)
8) Checkmate Knight (White)* 29 (3/3)
* Checkmate ATA 6 per

Total: 296

Amazon: 2 SA
Checkmate: 2 AST

HO: C-11, F-15, Amazon 2
LO: L-14

Map: Ruined School
http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils/...42&z2=x-540y45

Your Go.

5B

1/2) Checkmates will Perplex up Captain America's AV twice to 11.

2) Captain America will attack League Elite. AV 9+2 on 16+1 for 3+2 Enhancement damage. Needs a 6. Rolls: 11. Elite's out. 1 SA, 1 KO Cap, 2 AST Checkmate.

3) Gypsy pushes to flee. Rolls: 5. Moves to E-22. Push.

4) Plas will Transporter attack to C-18/19 on Iron Fist. AV 9-2 on DV 15, needs 8. Rolls: 10 for the KO. 1 SA, 1 KO to Plastic Man. Ends back where he started.

Free) Thinker Outwit on Citizen V's Blades.

mbauers' Bad Dudes

1) Mikron O'Jeneus 79 pts (5/5) F-15 @
2) Iron Fist 70 pts (0/7) KOed
3) Karate Kid 63 pts (1/6) A-11 @
4) Citizen V 58 pts (6/6) F-17 @
5) Man Bat Assassin* 40 pts (4/5) E-17 @
6) League Elite* 33 pts (0/5) KOed
7) Amazon of Bana Migh-dall 19 pts (4/4) A-10 @
8) Amazon of Bana Migh-dall 19 pts (4/4) C-10
* League of Assassins ATA 7 pts

Total: 395

Karate Kid 1 SA
Citizen V 1 AST
League Elite 1 AST
Iron Fist 2 SA, 1 KO

VS.

TheVagrantKing's Pitfall

1) HoT Captain America 72 (4/6) G-23 @
2) Thinker 55 (5/5) F-22
3) Plastic Man 55 (6/6) G/H-22 @
4) Amazon 50 (0/5) KOed
5) Amazon 50 (4/5) G-17
6) Gypsy 44 (4/6) F-18 @@
7) Checkmate Knight (White)* 29 (3/3) @
8) Checkmate Knight (White)* 29 (3/3) @
* Checkmate ATA 6 per

Total: 296

Amazon: 2 SA
Checkmate: 4 AST
Cap: 1 SA, 1 KO
Plas: 1 SA, 1 KO

HO: C-11, F-15, Amazon 2
LO: L-14

Map: Ruined School
http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils/...42&z2=x-540y45

Your Go.[/quote]

Can you please roll below a 9 and give me some 8's?

Iron Fist is using LoA TA so your attack is illegal (thankfully)

Ahhh...missed that you had two of em...thought getting rid of the elite solved my problems. I'll fix it in a bit when I get home.