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Mucha as we all knw some people don't care about character accuracy they just want big stompy characters who are over stated and undercost.
I donīt think itīs about that... itīs about a character that is clixed and wonīt be used ever as itīs overcosted !! ...or anyone seen a game with someone using Anaconda just for laughs?
Fairly accurate I would say, maybe drop her cost by 5 points but not too much else. Not everyone clix can be broken, then tournaments would look like Lady Gaga concerts and everyone would just be throwing glitter at one another. Did that make sense. I'm tired.
Also, not seeing how she's overcosted. At all. RS down the dial, with added mobility on the tail-end, CR for up-close (which, her being a secondary attacker, should give her a decent enough DV to survive late-game), ESD starting (18 DV at range, 19 if you park in hindering), no lower than a 9 AV, PB on the tail end to crack INV/IMP...
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When I compare her to Modern Age characters like Count Vertigo, Mademoiselle Marie, Lyssa Drak, Elsa Bloodstone or GSX Domino, she comes up short on all fronts.
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Except that she makes a better Diamondback than any of those figures.
I am thrilled with her. She is exactly where she should be. Diamondback, Batroc, new Hydra goons, (maybe) Cobra and Hyde... I think this may be my favorite set yet!
She is not a heavy hitter in the comics, nor is her clix. She will excel at hitting other secondary characters and support pieces, with the occasional Incap of someone she can't hurt.
This dial does everything I would expect it to. The Combat Reflexes and 19DV in Close on click three are my only complaints.... she's a little too good.
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I'm pretty sure Dragon has the Future keyword and Probability Control.
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With the amount of times you are Ninja'd I swear you must have the Past Keyword
She does seem overcosted for wehat she brings to the table. Since I'm not a fan of the character, I can see no reason to play a piece like this. Unless she gets some fantastic ATA I'll consider her trading fodder.
Looking at the comments so far it seems like people want her to be more powerful... are you nuts? It's Diamondback.
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Mucha as we all knw some people don't care about character accuracy they just want big stompy characters who are over stated and undercost.
I don't think anyone here is saying she should be more powerful, because anyone that's read her in the comics knows this is a fairly accurate representation.
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the problem here isnt her or her dial.
The real problem is previous figures from previous sets that have set unrealistic standards from which we now view all other characters.
Im looking at you Moonstone and HoT Captain America.
This figure sucks becase its just to easy to default to figures like that.
I think this is really what the issue is. The comparisons to similarly costed figures.
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Fairly accurate I would say, maybe drop her cost by 5 points but not too much else. Not everyone clix can be broken, then tournaments would look like Lady Gaga concerts and everyone would just be throwing glitter at one another. Did that make sense. I'm tired.
I don't think anyone expected her to be a game-breaking character. Just maybe a few points less as you stated.
And that 5 range is probably generous. 4 would probably be more accurate, but they bumped it to 5 since Running Shot with the movement and range being equal would just seem odd.
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I object to a range value of 5 on a 74 point character.
As to the comic accuracy of her powers, sure, she should only have 5 range. So reduce her point cost.
So by this definition, I should throw away all my Woverines, Nightcrawlers, Warriors Three, Wonder Woman, etc. figures, because theyre over 74 points and they have no range at all.
So by this definition, I should throw away all my Woverines, Nightcrawlers, Warriors Three, Wonder Woman, etc. figures, because theyre over 74 points and they have no range at all.
Don't be a jerk.
She's a 74 point character with all attack powers focused on range and only a range of 5.
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I'm happy to see the character made, because I read some Cap comics w/ her in it. But for the points, her dial is weak. Range is too short & I hate Incap.