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I think they can definately do better than an aging third option and two bench players. Plus they would be handing the Lakers a title. But really what it boils down to is Stern not wanting to admit that he got hosed by the players and the big market teams. Paul will move, and probably soon, but I would be shocked if he went to a team like LA, Dallas, NY, Boston, or Miami.
With losing Gasol and Odom, they'd only have Bynum for a big man up front, and they couldn't get Howard in a sign-and-trade either unless Orlando's GM did serious drugs before the negotiations.
How, exactly, are they going to make it through the West, let alone to the Finals? Short answer, they won't, and even if they had another deal in place (Marc Gasol, perhaps), they probably still wouldn't have the depth they need in the big positions.
Odom still has a pretty good amount of talent, and you are definitely selling Scola short. I highly doubt any better deal is going to come for the Hornets for Paul before July 1st. And even if it did, would any GM be able to negotiate in good faith with the Hornets knowing that the deal could be yanked on a whim? Answer: doubtful.
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Not any more. Magic filed tampering charges...holy hell. Can we put to rest now that the owners were in fact the dumber party in the lockout debacle?
Was there ever any doubt?
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Paul going to the Lakers would have been David Stern admitting that nothing had changed and the players won. While it is true that the players and big market teams were the clear winners of the lockout, and that very little is going to change in the "new" system, he can't say "we have a deal that will help small markets" one day and then screw over the small market team he runs the next.
What all of this does is make me wish the small market owners had stuck to their guns and not come back without a hard cap.
Odom for Paul even with draft picks and bench players is not a fair trade. Gasol would have been closer to a fair trade.Teams want Paul and while I agree that you need to trade him before July, I think you can get a lot more than a third or fourth option that is in the latter stages of his career, a few bench players, and pick in the late stages of the first round. A basketball team only really plays 8 or 9 guys a game and only relies on 5 or 6, if the Hornets are going to trade their number one guy away they need to get someone that can come close to filling that spot. Trading one for many works in hockey or football, but in basketball it is almost always a bad move.
Also I am glad the Warriors didn't get him. I think Stephen Curry is going to come into his own as an all-star this year and I would rather build my team's hopes on a rising talent than a guy that is prone to injury.
Dude what the hell are you talking about???!!! Martin and Scola are SOLID players in this league that would start in 85% of the teams in the league. They are not bench players. This was a GREAT deal for the Hornets. They stood to gain the most from this. In 66 games, CP3 is gonna walk, and the Hornets aren't gonna get diddly squat... And when that happens, these won't be the droids they're looking for in New Orleans...
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Ok, so this game's finally over?
Who the eff daykilled me back to back days? Seriously.
yep i agree scola and martain are real solid. both can score the ball run the floor and on top of that they would have got odom to. odom is a very good player i hate to see him get traded alot.
Same reason that people took, and still take shots at Lebron for just wanting to get as far away from that A-hole as possible... Ignorance...
Actually, I hate LeBron for the Decision and, more importantly, not letting the fans at least know that he was not returning before crushing their souls on national TV.
All he had to say is, "Look, Cleveland, I love you fans, but I can't win a championship here, so I'm leaving. Stay tuned to see where I WILL go!" and he would have saved himself about 95% of the grief he got.
But that's last season. This season... the Heat are skeery. I would think they are the heavy favorites right now. They have young legs, a very solid core, added support (Battier is HUGE for them), and with a strike-compressed season, that gives them a big edge.
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I think the big variable will be how the compressed schedule and game spree will affect the older and injury prone teams. On the other hand, they also have a shorter season. I don't know. The heat better compete for the next 8 years after they opened their big mouths. Not one, not two, not three...
Heh, you get the picture.
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Ok, so this game's finally over?
Who the eff daykilled me back to back days? Seriously.
I'm curious if the CP3 deal doesn't get "reworked" (aka add a 2nd round draft pick or something to it) and it get approved. They can't just send CP3 anywhere as since it's his last year he has the right to veto any trade where he won't sign an extension.
The league has been back for a little over 24 hours and we've already had tons of excitement and things to talk about.
The Lakers even with CP3 aren't winning this year. They'll likely make the playoffs, but I would guess they are looking to get CP3 now and then hopefully add Howard in the off season. Now THAT would be scary.
Who'd have the better Big 3 then...LA or Miami?
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I'm curious if the CP3 deal doesn't get "reworked" (aka add a 2nd round draft pick or something to it) and it get approved. They can't just send CP3 anywhere as since it's his last year he has the right to veto any trade where he won't sign an extension.
The league has been back for a little over 24 hours and we've already had tons of excitement and things to talk about.
The Lakers even with CP3 aren't winning this year. They'll likely make the playoffs, but I would guess they are looking to get CP3 now and then hopefully add Howard in the off season. Now THAT would be scary.
Who'd have the better Big 3 then...LA or Miami?
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The Howard Kobe Paul three would be better than the James Wade Bosh three.
Yes, but it isn't happening. I'm pretty sure that Orlando and/or NO will not let Howard and Paul go for nothing. Which means they will do trades. And the teams taking those trades will demand extensions as part of the trade. Right now it looks like the Clips are in the drivers' seat for Paul, which would be REALLY fun to see him teamed up with Blake.
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Little known fact - the "M" in M. Bison actually stands for "malakim2099."
I think Lebron & Dwade balance out with Kobe & CP3, it's the DHoward Bosh comparison that gets a little lob sided... And you can't help make it cause they're the 2 big guys, but who can you compare to Dwight in today's NBA and keep a straight face?
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Ok, so this game's finally over?
Who the eff daykilled me back to back days? Seriously.