I agree that F-16 is water. But do you see how the area your guys are in and the area my guys are in both look like rooms? I think we're inside and the other areas are outside. So I think those white things are supposed to be walls.

I figured out the confusion I thought 6 was MBA not the Elite that it is ....

so my last turn was illegal I cannot see the target

Ah, I see.

MAY I redo the turn

Sure thing

2b) again

1) mandroid TK's Dagger to C-10
2) Dagger RS To F-10 and fire at the Elite 9 vs 16 rolls a 4 ... miss



mbauers' League of Assassins

1) Bronze Tiger* 60 pts (7/7) F-18
2) Merlyn** 55 pts (6/6) E-17 @
3) U Batgirl (CJ) 41 pts (5/5) I-15 (stealth)
4) Manbat Assassin 40 pts (5/5) F-17
5) Manbat Assassin 40 pts (5/5) G-18
6) League Elite 33 pts (5/5) E-16 @

* = /w Opportunist (##) 10 pts
** = /w Vendetta (vs Ghost Rider) 6 pts, Darkness Within 15 pts

Total: 300 pts
Theme—League of Assassins: PC (2/2)

HO: G-17 (Dynamostat)
LO: H-17 (Shield Disruptor), C-13

Stepper79's Heroes for Hire

1)E Punisher (IH) 65 pts (6/6)E2
2)V Dagger 69 pts (5/5) F10@
3)E Ghost Rider 85 pts (7/7) F7,G6
4)R Mandroid Armor 28 pts (4/4) F2@
5)R Silver Sable 33 pts (5/5) E8
6)R Moon Knight 18pts (5/5) J-5

298

BFC: Back-Alley Brawl--Characters who make close combat attacks using no powers, feats, or team abilities and who are not affected by the powers, feats, or team abilities of any friendly character get +2 to their attack values.

Map: Santa's Workshop

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils2...7&x1=x487y-380

Not to pick a fight, but I think it's an unsportsmanlike move to make that roll with Dagger. You needed a 6 to hit with Punisher and rolled a 5. Upon discovering that was an illegal move, you then made an attack with Dagger that needed a 7. If I were you I would have said: "Well, Dagger will RS to here on League Elite, roll of 5 misses." I understand that illegal actions are redone, and had Punisher hit you should have rerolled (since Dagger needed a higher number to hit), but you essentially gave yourself Probability Control. I don't think someone should benefit from making a mistake, but that's just my opinion. It ultimately doesn't matter, again, because Dagger missed, but I thought that was shady. No hard feelings, but I just couldn't bite my tongue on that. Now, on with the game!

Turn 3a:

1) Batgirl L/C to D-11.

2) MBA 4 flies to D-12, drops League Elite at E-11.

3) MBA 5 flies to E-18.

mbauers' League of Assassins

1) Bronze Tiger* 60 pts (7/7) F-18
2) Merlyn** 55 pts (6/6) E-17
3) U Batgirl (CJ) 41 pts (5/5) D-11 @ (stealth)
4) Manbat Assassin 40 pts (5/5) D-12 @
5) Manbat Assassin 40 pts (5/5) E-18 @
6) League Elite 33 pts (5/5) E-11 (stealth)

* = /w Opportunist (##) 10 pts
** = /w Vendetta (vs Ghost Rider) 6 pts, Darkness Within 15 pts

Total: 300 pts
Theme—League of Assassins: PC (2/2)

HO: G-17 (Dynamostat)
LO: H-17 (Shield Disruptor), C-13

Stepper79's Heroes for Hire

1)E Punisher (IH) 65 pts (6/6)E2
2)V Dagger 69 pts (5/5) F10@
3)E Ghost Rider 85 pts (7/7) F7,G6
4)R Mandroid Armor 28 pts (4/4) F2@
5)R Silver Sable 33 pts (5/5) E8
6)R Moon Knight 18pts (5/5) J-5

298

BFC: Back-Alley Brawl--Characters who make close combat attacks using no powers, feats, or team abilities and who are not affected by the powers, feats, or team abilities of any friendly character get +2 to their attack values.

Map: Santa's Workshop

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils2...7&x1=x487y-380

Your Go.

sorry you are picking a fight .. I asked if I could redo the turn and you said yes I could not attack with PUNISHER plain and simple so I restarted the whole turn.

if you are going to be so particular then I will be too. Please declare you PC actions every turn case by case is not enough

Hehe, I thought I voiced my concern in a very mature, amicable way, and in response you're being pretty petty.

It has already been ruled in the league that Case by Case is a valid set of instructions to leave for Probability Control. So I will continue to say "case by case".

It's simple--if you make an attack, pause your turn and I'll let you know if I want to PC it. Here's more info for you, if it helps--if you ever FAIL a break away roll or attack, I will not PC it. If you succeed, I might PC it, but I'll determine that on a case by case basis.

And if you want to get technical, the rules of the league state that you rewind back to the illegal action. I could have made you keep the TKing of Punisher to where he was and make you retake your turn from there. I was being nice and I felt you were taking advantage of that. I wasn't complaining to any commissioners or trying to carry this out in an extended fight. I stated my opinion and tried to carry on with the match.

Then case by case better be printed in every turn . Please make no edits without asking for approval.

I will point out again that I asked if it was ok to redo the turn and you approved it.

Fine we will leave punisher were he was

Nope, your last turn stands as does mine. You didn't make an illegal move. You asked to redo your turn and I said yes. I just felt you were gaming the system.

And as for your aversion to case by case PC--I'm sorry it annoys you, but it is well within the rules of the league and I will continue to use it in all of my matches as I have in my last 50 or so matches in the league (with no problems or complaints, I might add.).

Look, I'm not mad about this situation and I don't want to argue over petty stuff on a heroclix website I visit for fun. I'm willing to move on and just play the game and I hope you ate too. You're up, my last turn stands. Case by case please.

Weird My post are not showing off the Ipad.

Sorry, you caught me having a bad morning and I just unloaded unfairly on you and for that I apologize lets just move on if you don't mind