Everything that has been answered has been done so correctly (if the wordings are correct of course).

If you're hoping to get an Orange to comment "officially" by Wednesday that is unlikely. But as everything said is 100% correct they probably wouldn't comment anyway.

As such, you should already have the answers you are looking for.

Cheers.

Another question...so if you outwit willpower then you prevent a power cosmic character from utilizing their no push mechanic. It does state they can use willpower.

Correct, again anything, ANYTHING that says you can use a power would not be able to be used no matter what the source.

*If the wording of the power is correct*

Awesome, thanks.

Just to point out, now that the card is in hand, it does say "standard power", which means this power couldn't be used to turn off Indomitable across the board, right?

Right. Indomitable is an Ability, not a standard power.

Indomitable grants the use of Willpower. Willpower is a standard power. Also Power Cosmic and Quintessence also grant the use of Willpower now. So if no one can use Willpower whether they have Indomitable, Power Cosmic or Quintessence they are taking pushing damage. Only E2 Superman is immune, as it should be.

Another awkward instance, but I have to ask:

The Leader (IH014) is on click #4, and has standard Outwit. Keeper uses his damage special to counter The Leader's Outwit, thus preventing any other character on The Leader's force from using Outwit.

On The Leader's turn, he is healed onto one of these damage special clicks:

Q: Does The Leader's force get Outwit(s) back?

Part of the reason this question is unclear is this bit from the PG:

The first point doesn't seem to apply, as Keeper is not countering "all" powers on The Leader's dial, but the wording sort of rolls into the second point's "returns". The second, "returns to the dial", is a bit challenging.

From Keeper's special, this is the hangup: "as long as this power is countered ". The Leader no longer possesses "this power", but can use it as part of his special. Can he use Outwit? If yes, then so can his cohorts. If no?

The thinking is that since it was standard Outwit that was countered by Keeper, and that because The Leader no longer possesses standard Outwit, it is no longer countered. Therefore The Leader can use the Outwit part of his special. Therefore his teammates that possess or can otherwise use Outwit can use Outwit. Maybe.

I know in the old days that each Outwit was considered a separate source, so if you had regular Outwit, lost it and then gained a special power Outwit, your original Outwit was lost (and anything countered by it would return), but the new Outwit was a separate source and could be used independently.

But the rule about only being able to use a free action once per turn for a single game effect may have jiggered this and the last time it came up the conversation left me confused. : - )

That's where I am. I think I understand how it's supposed to work, but this makes me doubt my understanding. I'd like for someone with a clearer head (work is killing me) to make a solid "yes/no" response and add a brief explanation.

But isn't the Leaders standard outwit still countered until the beginning if Keepers next turn.Meaning that the Leader still can not use the outwit from his SP,even if the standard outwit is not showing it is still ouwitted and Keepers special outwit says opposing characters can't use the power that was outwitted in the first place.

Unless Keeper loses his Outwit, yes.


And that means Keeper's special power (all of it) still functions. Just because the dial clicked and the countered power is no longer visible through the slot doesn't mean the power isn't countered. After all, if the dial was clicked again, and that Black square on damage reappeared, the power would still be countered.

Aha! See what happens when thinking tries to trump understanding?

Thank you.