A copy of each feat card that requires you to choose a character must be included on your force. Are you talking about the above quote from the players guide? If you needed a card for each character wouldn't it read:A copy of each feat card that requires you to choose a character must be included on your force for each character it is assigned to. Could be wrong but the way I read the players guide line above means. I got 3 characters using Protected so I need a copy of Protected. If your not talking about the above underscored quote then please quote the rule your refering to. Pretty sure your wrong. I just want to be clear so no one is cofused.

Yeah, I know... but try telling that to the tons of people every week at venues across America.

I swear, it's every single venue at least once a week, someone tries to play stupid like they don't know this rule exists. Or they are just to lazy or dumb to read the rulebook.

I'm kinda lazy and a little dumb but is the rule I tried to quote the one your refering to?

• Why would I need a card for each character?
• I can't put said cards on character cards that don't have cards.
• I don't have to have pulled them from a booster.
• I don't understand the logic behind having a Protected card for all 3 of my characters using it.
• Wouldn't having a pile of the same feat defeat the OP's concern?

I think VGAs rule is wasteful. Having multiple of the cards is not necessary in most cases. Like lunge, if i have 3 characters with lunge what point does having 3 copies of lunge do other then the judge making me jump through hoops because he feels like it. Now multiple copies of protected I can see. Because protected is something that gets spent and then the feet is gone. But even then multiple copies of protected is not necessary, just having something to work as a token that you put on the characters card would work just as well.

In the games I run, if you are to use a feat or an ata you have to have it printed out. If you have a big binder with all the feat cards in it I would require you copy down your feats exact wording onto an index card and then i would ok it once I see it is written down correctly. The material needs to be ready for your opponent to have quick access to to read it and not have to jump through hoops.

Thanks mybudrob

• In a tournament setting you must have a copy of a feat card for each character that you assign it to. Doing otherwise is considered to be playing with a proxy, which is not allowed under the HeroClix Comprehensive Tournament Rules.

The bolded is from the FAQ in the units section and it refers to Tournament rules 2008 concerning proxies. That section is not in the 2012 tournament rules.

This however:

is in the General Clarifications for feats in the Player's Guide.

Did you see my post at the top of this page mbstoner? A copy of each feat card; means 1 card. It does not say 1 card for each character using the same feat. Again I don't want to be argumentive I just don't want people to be confused. If I'm wrong I'm wrong. I am a big boy and can take it. What you and VGA are saying just doesn't make sense to me.

The Player's Guide Entry is clarifying that you need "A Card" for each character it is assigned to if is says "choose a character". Simply put "A Card for A Character". Multiple characters need multiple cards.

The only other way I can see that being read is that entry telling you that you must bring one of each card that says "to choose a character" weather you are using it or not, and that seems silly.

It's really nice that you like to share this stuff, but except for the one line I cut out these are house rules (which I hope you have posted) and opinions that don't really help answer the original question and have no place in the rules forum.

I will give you a moment to retract this statement as I feel that it is an unwarranted attack.

VGA and mbstoner are correct.

Yes I see that now. Just doesn't seem logical for print and play. When you had to pull them from a booster sure. Truly sorry if I caused confusion. Myself I could print off hundreds of feats and have them stacked up next to the map as I run my all Clobbering Time team. This lunge is on Spider-Man this lunge is on......Let it go NORB just let it go Oh well hope everyone has fun this weekend.

Aside from being against the rules, it's just laziness to not cut them out, let alone leave them in a binder the ENTIRE match. Imagine if I left all my character cards in my binder for the match and hoisted my binder every time a card needed to be looked at. (Which can happen quite often.)

Last I checked you could get scissors at the dollar store.

It's not my rule, it's the actual official rule. I added it because it seems most people are incapable of reading or understanding the basic rules laid out in the rulebook.

This proves my point I just made.. people don't read the rule book.

No, it's not an unwarranted attack. Every Golden Age event I've been to, there is always that one guy who plays stupid and say they didn't need multiple cards for each character... even though they have been playing for 5+ years. It's like when print and play was made legal, people want to see how far they can push the envelope.

For the win!

Probably because he despises print and play so much he has in a way forced his perception of how the game should be played onto his players. If you make the stipulations hard enough to follow then the players won't be encouraged to use print and play as an element at the venue. Thus allowing the people who felt they were cheated out of their actual hard won and pulled cards to use them over the other players who'd print them out.

I can't for the life of me see ANY point for any of those rules except the official rule of one card per character.
As you have pointed out, there are reasons people would print larger, or in Black and White (since you know color is kind of expensive).