One hit from Kara and...I don't think Dracula's coming back.

I never saw that Supergirl dial before, ever. 100 points? Really? That's just...sick. 11AV, Superstrength, 4 Damage, Hypersonic Speed? What point formula?

Dracula will suddenly flee to P2.

Lackey 3 will wonder where the holy water is and move to P9.

I just hope my TTPC to none for you is enough to save the lord of darkness.

Letting you know that the (#/#) ALWAYS confuses me so I'm leaving that in and doing my way of clicking (#!) because I know to add that many clicks to click #1, as in (3!) is on click #4.

3A.

Something Evil This Way Comes:
1) Dracula P2 @
2) E Vampire Lackey O12 (3/4) (1!)
3) E Vampire Lackey P9 @
TTPC: OO

Lighting The Way:
1) E Supergirl H12 w/ HO
2) Steel I8 w/ HO
3) Gotham City Detective I12 @
4) Lois Lane G9

HO: F6, H6
LO: K5, J10

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils2...8&u12=x488y-91

Yep, that's the Supergirl from the Superman set Fast Forces pack. The Supergirl that you seemed to be thinking of is actually just the rookie dial for the main set common Supergirl.

3B:

1) Lois Lane moves to N12.

2) Steel flies to N10.

Something Evil This Way Comes:
1) Dracula P2 @
2) E Vampire Lackey O12 (3/4) (1!)
3) E Vampire Lackey P9 @
TTPC: OO

Lighting The Way:
1) E Supergirl H12 w/ HO
2) Steel N10 w/ HO @
3) Gotham City Detective I12
4) Lois Lane N12 @

HO: F6, H6
LO: K5, J10

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils2...&u12=x623y-100

Shoot me a deadline and I'll definitely stick to it; thanks for your patience!

Lackey #2 will like the stretch of naked neck on Lois Lane and go for a bite, 7 on 15 +CR (where'd that come from? investigative reporting must've gotten more dangerous) for 2 damage (one for each fang) and there's a taste of my usual dice luck, a pathetic 1, 2 for a 3. Just keep an eye on it and you're going to see the laws of averages don't apply to me (I critical missed twice last night in one game, had millions of 1's show up for plenty of one off's, bleh).

Clear the other lackey & Dracula, who will pray for once in his life.

4A:

1) Lois Lane moves to N12.

2) Steel flies to N10.

Something Evil This Way Comes:
1) Dracula P2
2) E Vampire Lackey O12 (3/4) (1!) @
3) E Vampire Lackey P9
TTPC: OO

Lighting The Way:
1) E Supergirl H12 w/ HO
2) Steel N10 w/ HO @
3) Gotham City Detective I12
4) Lois Lane N12 @

HO: F6, H6
LO: K5, J10

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils2...&u12=x623y-100

4B:

1) Supergirl HSS flies to P6 and shoots Drac, rolling (1, 1) for a critical miss. Looks like your prayers were answered. She stops her movement there and drops her HO.

2) Detective will move to O8.

Something Evil This Way Comes:
1) Dracula P2
2) E Vampire Lackey O12 (3/4) (1!) @
3) E Vampire Lackey P9
TTPC: OO

Lighting The Way:
1) E Supergirl (5/6) P6
2) Steel N10 w/ HO
3) Gotham City Detective O8 @
4) Lois Lane N12

HO: F6, H6
LO: K5, J10

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils2...&u12=x656y-243

Looking like Dracula still can work his magic on women, Kryptonian or not.

He'll Charge in for a grab and bite on Kara at P5, going for the jugular with Exploit Weakness, 11 on 16 for 4 through and through and there we go again with those 1's...1, 3 for a pitiful step up from 3 to 4.

Lackey #3 on the GCD, a longshot of 10 for some bladed love and there's the average roll I could've used for Dracula, a 3, 3 for 6.

#2 pushes on Lois, the same 10 needed for 2 and it's another good roll that goes for naught, 2, 5 for 7.

I'll watch with TTPC for Dracula if Kara pushes.

Something Evil This Way Comes:
1) Dracula P5 @
2) E Vampire Lackey O12 (2/4) (2!) @@
3) E Vampire Lackey P9 @
TTPC: OO

Lighting The Way:
1) E Supergirl (5/6) P6 @
2) Steel N10 w/ HO
3) Gotham City Detective O8 @
4) Lois Lane N12

HO: F6, H6
LO: K5, J10

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils2...&u12=x656y-243

Ain't TTPCing any hits on the Lackeys, BTW

Yep, Drac has to TTPC that push on Kara.

No, no, no, that'd have been Dracula's TTPC on Kara, that 5 you just rolled; I've clearly stated Dracula was TTPCing in my last summary

5B:

1) Steel will charge to P10 and drop the HO on Lackey #3. Rolls (3, 3) for a hit, dealing 2 + 2 damage for the KO.

2) Supergirl will push to attack Dracula with exploit weakness. Rolls (3, 6) for a hit, dealing 3 penetrating damage. I take it you want to use a TTPC on Dracula?

3) Lois Lane will punch Lackey #2. Rolls (2, 3) for a hit, dealing 1 damage.

Something Evil This Way Comes:
1) Dracula P5 @
2) E Vampire Lackey O12 (1/4) (2!) @@
3) E Vampire Lackey *KO'ed*
TTPC: OO

Lighting The Way:
1) E Supergirl (4/6) P6 @@
2) [6] Steel P10 @
3) Gotham City Detective O8
4) [1] Lois Lane N12 @

HO: F6, H6
LO: K5, J10
http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils2...&u12=x694y-183

Yes; however, that TTPC'd roll by Kara would have been the 5 Lois rolled.

You can't just go past Lois's roll and reroll the attack on Dracula.

So, just go ahead and reroll for Lois on the Lackey because that's how the dice progression would've gone.

Right?

No, dice don't work like that. There is no order of progression of rolls that are fated to happen in a certain order. When I roll the dice again for Supergirl, they have the exact same odds of being a success or a failure as any other time I click the "roll" button.

If that was the case, I would simply make several rolls, then declare my actions in the order that most benefitted my team. Like I roll a 7, a 12, and a 2... then I decide to make the first action Steel hitting the Lackey, the second be Supergirl critical hitting Drac, and the third be Lois crit missing and taking a click.

The fact that I label all of my rolls is to prevent exactly this from happening. I rolled a 5 with Lois because before hitting "roll" I specifically stated beforehand that this is Lois's attack. If the dice had come up as a critical hit, I would still have to accept that it was Lois' critical hit and not Supergirl's, even though obviously it would benefit me a lot more if Supergirl rolled a critical success.

2) Rerolled attack from Supergirl was (3, 3) for a miss.

Something Evil This Way Comes:
1) Dracula P5 @@
2) E Vampire Lackey O12 (1/4) (2!) @@
3) E Vampire Lackey *KO'ed*

Lighting The Way:
1) E Supergirl (4/6) P6 @@
2) [6] Steel P10 @
3) Gotham City Detective O8
4) [1] Lois Lane N12 @

HO: F6, H6
LO: K5, J10

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils2...&u12=x694y-183

That absolutely makes no sense.

The TTPC'd roll should've happened BEFORE Lois's roll. You totally jumped the gun there, that's the thing here, especially after I clearly stated I was TTPC'ing with Dracula on Kara?

That's really circumventing the appropriate rolling order. I really have a problem with your "explanation"...because had you been standing across from me in a live game, that 5 would've been the rerolled Kara roll. Get me? In this sense, you're really rolling out of order and that is not in the rules of Heroclix. I'm not sure where "no, dice don't work like that" came from because that's EXACTLY how it is supposed to work.

But hey, I'm here for fun and so far Dracula's weaknesses for women haven't really bitten him in the arse, pun intended.

BTW, you could've taken two turns there, I'm pushed

Clear.

Looking like Dracula's going to have to fend off the entirety of Metropolis on his own soon enough.

Something Evil This Way Comes:
1) Dracula P5
2) E Vampire Lackey O12 (1/4) (2!)
3) E Vampire Lackey *KO'ed*

Lighting The Way:
1) E Supergirl (4/6) P6 @@
2) [6] Steel P10 @
3) Gotham City Detective O8
4) [1] Lois Lane N12 @

HO: F6, H6
LO: K5, J10

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils2...&u12=x694y-183

The reason I said dice "don't work that way" is because you are describing them as functioning as a similar but different random element, a shuffled deck of cards. You seem to be taking the position that somewhere there exists a list of random dice rolls that appear one by one as we make our attack rolls. This is false. There is no "order" that these dice rolls are going to appear in, as there would be with a deck of cards. That's why Supergirl's attack was completely unaffected by Lois' action.

What was the odds of the dice coming up as a total of 5 prior to Lois' action? 4/36. (There are 4 possible combinations of dice-faces that will result in a total of "5": (1&4)(2&3)(3&2)(4&1)

i.e the odds of Supergirl rolling a 5 for her attack are 1-in-9.

Now, Lois makes her attack roll. Maybe she hits the vampire, maybe she misses. Maybe she critical misses and takes a click of damage. It actually doesn't matter, because there is no possible dice result that will influence the outcome of Supergirl's attack.

Now, after Lois' action, what are the odds that Supergirl will roll 2d6 and achieve a total of 5? It's still 1-in-9. I have the exact same chance of hitting or missing Dracula. I haven't somehow managed to have Lois "take the bad roll" for Supergirl, because I have no way of knowing what the rolls are going to be ahead of time.

Now, if I had rolled the dice without declaring who they were for, and then after seeing the result of "5" decided to say, "oh, by the way, that was Lois' roll", then yes, that would be cheating. That would be buying Supergirl an extra chance to hit Dracula that she didn't deserve. But since I did label that roll as Lois' roll before rolling the dice, it didn't matter if it was a good roll or a bad roll. It was always going to be Lois' and no one else. Supergirl is still left trying to roll an 8-or-better twice in a row, regardless of what order the dice are rolled in.

Make sense now?

6B:

1) Detective moves to P9

Something Evil This Way Comes:
1) Dracula P5
2) E Vampire Lackey O12 (1/4) (2!)
3) E Vampire Lackey *KO'ed*

Lighting The Way:
1) E Supergirl (4/6) P6
2) [6] Steel P10
3) Gotham City Detective P9 @
4) [1] Lois Lane N12

HO: F6, H6
LO: K5, J10

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils2...&u12=x698y-223

We can agree to disagree

Heroclix DOES have a fixed order, but I've made my point, you've made your point, both are valid.

Dracula will curse the Kryptonian blood and try to go for Kara's neck again, 11 on 17 for 4 via Exploit Weakness and he won't miss the jugular this time. 4 to Kara and Dracula heals up one (via the Trait) while she drops into a lifeless heap.

The last Lackey will try and rip into Lois as well, 6 on 15 +CR, a 11 for 1 with Steal Energy and the Lackey is inspired by her Lord of Darkness! A critical hit there deals 2 to Lois and sends her sprawling to L12 and heals the Lackey up 1.

BTW, mind explaining how the (#/#) works because I've always been confused by that hence why I typically use (#!)...thanks.

And what's the # before Steel and Lois's #?

7A.

Something Evil This Way Comes:
1) Dracula P5 (2!) @
2) E Vampire Lackey O12 (2/4) (2!) @
3) E Vampire Lackey *KO'ed*

Lighting The Way:
1) E Supergirl *KO'ed*
2) [6] Steel P10
3) Gotham City Detective P9 @
4) [1] Lois Lane L12 (2!)

HO: F6, H6
LO: K5, J10

http://www.ianparmenter.com/hcutils2...&u12=x698y-223

Got one more TTPC so if that was a hit, I'll burn it.